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Brave new NIL world

Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:53 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102139 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:53 am
The Big 12 heavyweight wrestling champ is an Air Force second lieutenant who enrolled in Okie State after graduating from the Air Force Academy, earned 500k in NIL and will begin his Air Force career after the NCAA championships.

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Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11261 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:57 am to
I don’t see anything about a reported $500k NIL, but good for him. This is the good part of NIL & Transfer Portal.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73309 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:57 am to
I didn't click on the link, but your description of it makes it seem like a really cool story all around.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102139 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:07 am to
Sorry the NIL was in another article.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11261 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:09 am to
Surprised a college wrestler could make $500k but those wrestling schools take it seriously
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:32 am to
Oklahoma State has decided to go all in on wrestling (again). They used to be the main powerhouse, then Iowa, now Penn State.

The former Oklahoma State coach, John Smith, a legend in wrestling retired and they made David Taylor the highest paid wrestling coach in the country. Even higher than Penn State's Cael Sanderson.

Taylor is backed by Paycom and that billionaire wants to bring Ok State back to #1. They are already making serious noise on the recruiting front since hiring Taylor.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 10:33 am
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:36 am to
Both Penn State and Oklahoma State wrestling programs are backed by billionaires. Iowa's wrestling roster was supposedly $2 .million this year.

Who knows how much Gable Steveson made at Minnesota this year.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6202 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:37 am to
Does wrestling bring in any money to athletic depts, or is the race to the top simply funded due to rich men’s egos?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:44 am to
At places like Oklahoma State and the powerhouse B1G schools, they're probably doing well. Mizzou has always been decent, but doesn't have the backing or the conference cred (they have to wrestle in the Big 12 since the SEC doesn't have wrestling).

Those powerhouse schools sell out every dual in the basketball arenas. And their tournaments are cash cows.

But they also have "wrestling clubs" for Olympic and post-NCAA wrestling that are loosely associated with the school's NCAA program. It's a weird situation.

Anyway, Title IX destroyed a lot of wrestling programs and it's a shame. Wrestling is a great sport that teaches toughness, strength, commitment and also proper nutrition and weight control.

Of all the sports, I believe it needs to be growing, not contracting.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11261 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:45 am to
Idk what their ticket prices are but OSU had over 10k fans in attendance for a match & averaged almost 7,600 for their 7 matches this year
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:48 am to
Yep, it's big time. As good of an atmosphere as any college basketball game.

No ball. No teammates. Just you. No excuses.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
5411 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:54 am to
Good for him
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:56 am to
The NCAA wrestling championships are in a week and a half. Definitely worth tuning in for.

It's a serious grind. 3 straight days of having to make weight and facing tough competition.

If someone doesn't know college wrestling, watch the Messenbrink-Caliendo match from the B1G finals on Sunday. A heck of a battle between two great collegiate wrestlers.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
31758 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:14 pm to
LSU had the best wrestling program in the SEC.

quote:

In the 12 year existence of SEC wrestling, the conference produced 163 NCAA Division I Qualifiers

SEC Wrestling Produced 23 All Americans.
Let's take a look at this by Year

1970 - 9 NCAA Qualifiers - No All Americans
Auburn - 2
Alabama - 1
Louisiana State - 5
Tennessee - 1

1971 - 7 NCAA Qualifiers - No All Americans

Auburn - 4
Alabama - 2
Louisiana State - 1

1972 - 10 NCAA Qualifiers - No All Americans
Auburn - 4
Alabama - 2
Louisiana State - 4

1973 - 10 NCAA Qualifiers - No All Americans
Auburn - 5
Alabama - 4
Florida - 1

1974 - 9 NCAA Qualifiers - No All Americans

Auburn - 4
Alabama - 2
Florida - 1
Tennessee - 2

NOTE: Kentucky joins the SEC in 1975, which is also their first year of varsity wrestling.

1975 - 9 NCAA Qualifiers - Two All Americans
Alabama - 1
Florida - 2
Louisiana State - 2
Tennessee - 3
Kentucky - 4 (2 of which were All Americans)



1976 - 14 NCAA Qualifiers - Two All Americans
Alabama - 3
Florida - 3
Louisiana State - 2
Tennessee - 1
Kentucky - 5 (2 of which were All Americans)


1977 - 20 NCAA Qualifiers - Six All Americans
Auburn - 1
Alabama - 3
Florida - 6
Tennessee - 3 (2 of which were All Americans)
Kentucky - 7 (4 of which were All Americans)

1978 - 22 NCAA qualifiers - Two All Americans

Auburn - 3
Alabama - 3
Florida - 6 (Which one was an All American)
Louisiana State - 4 (Which one was an All American)
Tennessee - 2
Kentucky - 4

1979 - 21 NCAA Qualifiers - One All American
Auburn - 6
Alabama - 1
Georgia - 2
Florida - 3
Louisiana State - 8 (Which one was an All American)
Tennessee - 1

1980 - 18 NCAA Qualifiers - Five All Americans
Auburn - 6 (1 is an All American)
Georgia - 2
Louisiana State - 4 (1 is an All American)
Kentucky - 4 (1 is an All American)
Tennessee - 2 (2 of which were All Americans)

NOTE: Florida and Alabama both drop their wrestling programs after the 1979-1980 season

1981 - 13 NCAA Qualifiers - Four All Americans
Auburn - 5 (Two of which were All Americans)
Louisiana State - 6 (One of Which was an All American)
Kentucky - 2 (One of which was an All American)


quote:

SEC CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS Auburn - 4 Louisiana State - 5 Kentucky - 2 Florida - 1


johnnythompsonnum1.blogspot.com

They dropped it when Title IX made schools give more scholarships to girls. Just like they dropped their top 10 Men's gymnastics program.

Kevin Jackson was a three time All American. Would have been a four time AA but they cut the program his senior year.

quote:

Jackson attended LSU for his first three seasons as a collegiate wrestler until the university discontinued the sport. He transferred to Iowa State for his senior season and completed his collegiate career with four All-America honors and a runners-up finish in the 1987 NCAA tournament.

Following his graduation from Iowa State, he captured an Olympic Gold Medal at the 1992 Games in Barcelona. He was also a two-time World Championships Gold Medalist and a two-time Pan American Games Gold Medalist.


Kevin Jackson Continues to Thrive on an International Stage (on lsusports.net)

This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
3421 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

Mizzou has always been decent, but doesn't have the backing or the conference cred


We’re still a very, very good program and Brian Smith may very well be the best coach Mizzou has ever had in any sport, legendary. It’s been a somewhat down year, even though we’ve been ranked all season. The toll of graduation and a shite ton of injuries, particularly to our stars, hell Keegan O’toole didn’t wrestle his first match of the season until like 10 days ago.

Columbia just hosted state wrestling at MU Arena two weeks ago and all sessions were sold out, high school wrestling is huge here.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 6:43 pm to
It always has been. It was huge in my high school in Missouri back when for sure.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68982 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 7:03 pm to
shite he probably won’t even serve a real day in the Air Force, he’ll be an athlete like Bobby lashley and Randy couture were as wrestlers while in the Army
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68982 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 7:06 pm to
I was offered a trip to go to Dagestan
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:10 am to
Were you a wrestlers in the military? I was friends with an Army wrestler, Dale Blubaugh. His dad, Doug Blubaugh won Olympic gold in 1960 by beating an Iranian.

Dale was a badass, but Doug was insane. I remember seeing him walk on his hands as an older man, his upper body was that strong.
Posted by Keyszer10
Member since Aug 2018
466 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:00 pm to
T.J. Hill - Missouri High School Legend. That little dude was a character.
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