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re: Could the best high school football teams beat some D3 or NAIA schools?
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:23 am to GentleJackJones
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:23 am to GentleJackJones
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Could the best high school football teams beat some D3 or NAIA schools?
I’m going to say the best high school team could beat the worst college team.
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:47 am to GentleJackJones
depends on the school.
I coached track/xc at an naia for a while and saw some solid teams across various sports and some awful teams across various sports. The good ones would have their way with teh high schools. The bad ones (especially the really bad ones) would lose and id venture some might even get blown out to the IMG's and such of the world.
I coached track/xc at an naia for a while and saw some solid teams across various sports and some awful teams across various sports. The good ones would have their way with teh high schools. The bad ones (especially the really bad ones) would lose and id venture some might even get blown out to the IMG's and such of the world.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:49 am to iBack8569
quote:I dont think you understand how truly awful some of these college programs are. There's a lot that exist just to get butts in seats at the school for tuition purposes and they couldnt care less how good the program is.
Maybe in baseball, but not football. A 17 year old is a far cry physically from a 20 year old, even if he is likely going to a D1 Power 5 school. There's a reason not very many true freshmen can start in college.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:50 am to Icceytiger
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Not even close, the high school kids would be blown out
Some of those IMG and the others would take them to the woodshed.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:01 pm to iBack8569
quote:LSU had 2 true freshman start on their offensive line this year and will have another next year.
Maybe in baseball, but not football. A 17 year old is a far cry physically from a 20 year old, even if he is likely going to a D1 Power 5 school. There's a reason not very many true freshmen can start in college.
Any starting offensive lineman from IMG would walk into any D3/NAIA program and instantly be the best lineman on the team (outside of the maybe 10 that make it and transfer to an FBS/FCS school after their COVID 5th year)
Senior in high school Leonard Fournette is running for 200 yards a game against every D3 school in America behind his St. Aug line. Maybe the D3 school could grind out some yards with a bigger O-line, but they can't stop the top skill guys.
A lot of people in this thread don't understand that there are teams (like 2012-2014 Curtis, St. Aug) that had 20-25 D1 players on their teams. That's not taking into account the IMG's and St. Francis's of the world. That's just LA highschool football.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:32 pm to Icceytiger
Doesn’t IMG routinely produce classes that on their own would rank top 15-20 in the recruiting rankings? Those teams are absolutely full of players that will play FBS and FCS scholarship football. HS kids at football schools are also more physically mature than ever. These dudes don’t look like the guys we used to play HS football with (not me at least). Sheer talent and athleticism of a few top HS programs would be significantly better than a lot of non scholarship college teams.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:46 pm to GentleJackJones
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY do folks do this ? 
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:55 pm to Icceytiger
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Not even close, the high school kids would be blown out
some of yall are crazy.
First off, in any given year the absolute very best CFB team would get obliterated by 50 by the very worst NFL team. No question, no debate. The reason for htat is that NFL teams have 53 of the very best people on the planet, and they are made up of grown arse 20-35 year old MEN. No matter how good the college team is, they are still going to be made up of 18-21 year olds, many of which won't ever paly an NFL down. The difference in just the LOS alone is staggering enough to make the discussion laughable.
Which brings us to the topic at hand. The OP didn't say "the D3 national chgamps". It said "some D3 or NAIA" schools. I don't think yall realize how fricking AWFUL some teams are that fit that bill. And unlike teh CFB/NFL argument, you aren't talking such a sizeable gap in size and age. Wiht the best HS team in america you're talking abotu a group of 17/18 year olds almost all of which will play high major colelge ball (I'm envisioning like an IMG type team). Comapre that to a team of 18-21 year olds made up largely of guys who were backup scrubs on their HS teams, or guys that were decent in HS but not good enough to land any higher than D3.
I would think it a certainty that an IMG type team could easily beat some of the lower end D3/NAIA and am a bit surprised that peopel think it's so outlandish to suggest so.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:46 pm to GentleJackJones
Nope not even close. Those guys at d3 and NAiA schools are very talented and are grown men
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:51 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Those guys at d3 and NAiA schools are very talented and are grown men
Future pros vs not future pros
Another example. We’ve all talked about John Melvin University in Crowley laughing at those whom would play that low a level of college football in a fly by night setting.
Does anyone believe any 5A playoff team wouldn’t score on them? Curtis would run a train on them but yet they’re technically college football
People don’t understand the dawgs that Louisiana high schools have and that most D3 programs have never seen a dawg or had one
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:11 pm to BatonrougeCajun
quote:we're calling 22 year olds grown men now? IMG probably a better strength program than 99% of D3 programs.
Those guys at d3 and NAiA schools are very talented and are grown men
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:28 pm to GentleJackJones
It depends. The best D3 conferences for football are based in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. The worst teams in WIAC, MIAC, MIAA, and OAC would destroy the state champions of Texas or Florida or Louisiana. IMG would get beat.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:38 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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hose guys at d3 and NAiA schools are very talented
12 months in the future the guys on that HS team are going to be palying high major ball int he SEC and elsewhere while the "very talented" guys on your NAIA squad will be getting their start in the HVAC industry.
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and are grown men
It's very possible there's only a 1-2 year age gap for many of the players on the field.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:38 pm to GentleJackJones
Hell yeah they could. Cousin played at Mississippi College and swore that his HS team would have routed his college team. Coming from a guy that played for both teams, I’ll take his word.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:40 pm to WG_Dawg
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The OP didn't say "the D3 national chgamps". It said "some D3 or NAIA" schools. I don't think yall realize how fricking AWFUL some teams are that fit that bill
This. My original post stated:
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That said, how do you think some of the best high school teams (for example, some of the West Monroe, Zachary, Destrehan, U High, etc) teams would fare against some of the lesser D3 or NAIA schools like Millsaps, Louisiana Christian University, Sewanee, East Texas Baptist, etc.
Basically, could your IMG, best Texas' schools, St. Thomas Aquinas, Bishop Gorman, Mater Dei, etc. beat the weaker teams? It would be a tough win, but I think if they had a "freak player" (Adrian Peterson, Fournette, etc.) it may be possible.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:19 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Nope not even close. Those guys at d3 and NAiA schools are very talented and are grown men
Bro, I coach at a top ten high school football team in the state of Georgia. Some of those kids from here that get D3 and NAIA scholarships can’t even start for our high school. They would get shellacked by some big time high school teams.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:30 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Even at the D3 and NAIA level, most of the players were probably the best player on their high school team, or among the 2-3 best.
They would have to be on a pretty horrible
high school team.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:51 pm to GentleJackJones
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it may be possible
LMAO!
The best HS teams would boat race 'em.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:02 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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The best D3 conferences for football are based in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. The worst teams in WIAC, MIAC, MIAA, and OAC
We call the Big Ten unathletic and slow, what do you think those are
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:21 pm to Jim Hopper
[quote]Freshmen are playing more than ever because most kids aren’t staying 4 years in college[/quote
Senior year after the season ends and before entering college is prime time to get bigger and stronger. Usually after the kid stops growing taller they can put on muscle easier.
If played in the fall the D3 team would have a huge advantage. Plus the high school team will probably have some juniors and sophomores playing. So, 14-16 year old kids against 21-22 year old men.
Senior year after the season ends and before entering college is prime time to get bigger and stronger. Usually after the kid stops growing taller they can put on muscle easier.
If played in the fall the D3 team would have a huge advantage. Plus the high school team will probably have some juniors and sophomores playing. So, 14-16 year old kids against 21-22 year old men.
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