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re: Iowa is a top 5 state for NFL talent
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:12 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:12 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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Is the “per capita” based on just the males in the state? If not LA is even stronger
That map is so full of inaccuracies and wouldn't trust any of its conclusions.
Even if it was semi accurate does anyone really care if Iowa is one the best state "per capital" in producing NFL players?
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 8:48 am
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Posted on 7/30/24 at 6:50 am to RD Dawg
Something a loser would say
Posted on 7/30/24 at 6:52 am to RD Dawg
Iowa isn't. Pretty much tied with georgia
Posted on 7/30/24 at 7:17 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Iowa isn't. Pretty much tied with georgia
From a per capita perspective it may be.
Population of Georgia: 10.91 Million
Population of Greater Atlanta area: 6.93 Million
Population of Iowa: 3.2 Million
Posted on 7/30/24 at 8:21 am to RD Dawg
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Stop with the "per capita" garbage
It means jack squat in the scheme of things
you were downvoted into oblivion even though you're right. LSU fans LOVE to tout "per capita" when it comes to HS recruiting because it makes their state appear better, when in reality per capita is utterly irrelevant when it comes to the bigger picture. Here is a massively hyperbolic example for HS recruiting:
-State A is large and has 5,000 high school seniors playing ball. They have 200 upper level prospects with 50 of them being 5* caliber and 150 being 4* caliber players. They have another several hundred 3* players then several thousand other guys that you can find some value in potentially.
-State B is teeny tiny and has 50 HS seniors. 3 are 5* caliber and 5 are 4* caliber. 10 of them are 3* and the rest are whatever.
State B has a shitton more blue chip type players "per capita". Based on percentage of overall talent pool state B has a higher percentage of 5*, higher percentage of 4*, higher percentage of 3*, basically they are better across the board. But no coach in their right mind, or anyone using logic, would claim that state B is the better state for HS talent.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 8:41 am to yaboidarrell
Is there an unbelievable amount of estrogen in the water for NH and VT?
Posted on 7/30/24 at 9:18 am to WG_Dawg
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But no coach in their right mind, or anyone using logic, would claim that state B is the better state for HS talent.
It’s straight math
State B seems like it’s just made up of Karr, Warren Easton, Destrehan, John Curtis, University, and Westgate. That would undoubtedly be the best state there is
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/30/24 at 9:25 am to chalmetteowl
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It’s straight math
yes! You are exactly right!
And straight math (not to mention logic, common season, and basic reasoning skills) would indicate that the state with A TON more highly ranked recruits than another would be the better state for talent. Glad we agree.
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State B seems like it’s just made up of Karr, Warren Easton, Destrehan, John Curtis, University, and Westgate. That would undoubtedly be the best state there is
Now imagine a state with the same schools you just mentioned plus 20 more of them.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 9:26 am to yaboidarrell
Man if we could find a way to kick ole miss out and consolidate all of Mississippi’s talent we would become a fricking problem
Posted on 7/30/24 at 9:36 am to yaboidarrell
We could look at this map and notice how Iowa is an outlier compared to the rest of the Midwest states in producing and developing NFL talent. Not surprising considering Iowa and (I will admit) Iowa State are good developmental programs for moving players on to the NFL.
Iowa HS football is not on the same level as other states but there are some boys that can play ball in that state and Ferentz and Campbell are getting hold of these kids and molding them into NFLers.
That's all this map says to me. I am not even comparing Iowa with the South.
Iowa HS football is not on the same level as other states but there are some boys that can play ball in that state and Ferentz and Campbell are getting hold of these kids and molding them into NFLers.
That's all this map says to me. I am not even comparing Iowa with the South.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 10:21 am to WG_Dawg
Now do NFL players by state, then do NFL star players by state and tell me Louisiana talent is not elite. Just in WRs alone Louisiana has 3 of the top 5 NFL WRs. You can downplay any other state but you won’t win the argument downplaying Louisiana talent.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 10:23 am to WG_Dawg
What you’re not getting is recruiting services fail to properly rank Louisiana every year. It’s why you see 3 star recruits come out of the state and make it to the NFL often.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 10:24 am to WG_Dawg
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you were downvoted into oblivion even though you're right. LSU fans LOVE to tout "per capita" when it comes to HS recruiting because it makes their state appear better, when in reality per capita is utterly irrelevant when it comes to the bigger picture.
LSU is third in recruiting rankings in 2025 currently and almost half of the class is from LA. They have the shortest average distance from the school to where their recruits live in the top 25 classes, too.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:13 am to yaboidarrell
i'm not arguing it being factual, it's just really hard to believe is all.
CA, SC, TX, ARK....wtf is going on?
CA, SC, TX, ARK....wtf is going on?
Posted on 7/30/24 at 1:43 pm to SoDakHawk
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We could look at this map and notice how Iowa is an outlier compared to the rest of the Midwest states in producing and developing NFL talent. Not surprising considering Iowa and (I will admit) Iowa State are good developmental programs for moving players on to the NFL.
Making a lot of assumptions there. Depending on how they classify what state the players come from (where they are born vs. where they came out of high school) you could be looking at a lot of players who never played a down of football in their birth state or went out of state after high school.
And another thing that isn’t considered is the state’s population when the players were born/came out of high school vs. now. South Carolina’s population has grown by nearly 40% since 2000. We’ve grown by 5-6% since 2020 alone. Some states have remained flat.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 2:08 pm to yaboidarrell
That map said FU to Wisconsin
Posted on 7/30/24 at 2:14 pm to WG_Dawg
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you were downvoted into oblivion even though you're right. LSU fans LOVE to tout "per capita" when it comes to HS recruiting because it makes their state appear better, when in reality per capita is utterly irrelevant when it comes to the bigger picture. Here is a massively hyperbolic example for HS recruiting:
Exactly...not too mention the breakdown of demographics for each state.Why are counting females or elderly males or even males over 30 for your control group?The numbers are always fluid but go ahead and put a feather in your cap and puff your chest if it's that important to you.
And look what I found :
Georgia #1 in "per capita" players in the NFL
Posted on 7/30/24 at 2:16 pm to WG_Dawg
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you were downvoted into oblivion even though you're right. LSU fans LOVE to tout "per capita" when it comes to HS recruiting because it makes their state appear better, when in reality per capita is utterly irrelevant when it comes to the bigger picture. Here is a massively hyperbolic example for HS recruiting:
Exactly...not to mention the breakdown of demographics for each state.Why are counting females or elderly males or even males over 30 for your control group?The numbers are always fluid but go ahead and put a feather in your cap and puff your chest if it's that important to you.
And look what I found :
Georgia #1 in "per capita" players in the NFL
Georgia ranks first this season in NFL players per capita and fourth in players overall, according to league data released last weekend. This is based on the players’ high schools.
Per capita*
71,413 - Georgia
72,777 - Louisiana
83,738 - Alabama
92,540 - Mississippi
121,001 - Florida
125,831 - Utah
128,692 - Maryland
131,242 - South Carolina
155,858 - Texas
158,173 - North Carolina
This was for the 2023 season
Is this how your supposed to do it?
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187 - Texas
178 - Florida
173 - California
150 - Georgia
67 - Ohio
66 - North Carolina
64 - Louisiana
60 - Alabama
55 - Pennsylvania
51 - Michigan
ETA And even if these numbers are accurate it's still means nothing other than most of the top states put a big emphasis on HS FB
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 7/30/24 at 2:17 pm to WG_Dawg
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But no coach in their right mind, or anyone using logic, would claim that state B is the better state for HS talent.
No one has ever said Louisiana is the best state for recruits. The claim has always been that LSU has a better situation than everyone else because of its status as a lone power program in-state. Mississippi has always had similar per capita numbers and no one has ever argued Ole Miss or MSU have the best in-state recruiting situation.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 2:44 pm to tigre704
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No one has ever said Louisiana is the best state for recruits.
But at some positions and body types it is…
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