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Larry Bird and the 1979 Indiana State team

Posted on 4/7/09 at 8:54 am
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 8:54 am
has one player in college basketball history almost single handedly taken a team from virtual obscurity to an unbeaten regular season and shot in the title game other than Bird?Seeing all the Bird-Magic stuff the last week made me think of this. After '79 Indiana State promptly went back to the warehouse.

Indiana State in the National Title game would be like USL or Southern Miss in the title game.
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:43 am to
I can't think of anyone else. But that ultimately led to their defeat (one man team.? Jud Heathcoat said they could devote 2 men to Bird and not worry about anyone else.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:44 am to
not undefeated, but marquette has fallen back into virtual obscurity before Dwayne Wade
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:44 am to
I think that adds legitimacy to the argument that Bird was at least the greatest college ball player ever.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:47 am to
I think Bird and Magic go hand-n-hand, they will be forever linked, Mich State was a bottom feeder big ten team before his arrival, he single handidly transformed State basketball, made players better than what they were, anybody seen Greg Kelser last?
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 9:49 am
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:49 am to
Not college, but this dude was quite the one-man team.

Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:51 am to
Marquette was in the tourney this year.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:57 am to
Yea,Wade did a great job of bringing Marquette back to the top shelf,but Marquette had some great teams in the 1970's.(and great uniforms )

Indiana State never has had diddle except for 1978-1979.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:59 am to
I thought they had a lil sucess after Bird with a guard that I can't rememba the name of now, but your right haven't heard nothing from them since.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 9:59 am to
Indiana State was the Cinderella team we never get any more.

Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:00 am to
Eddie Bird was the shite
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:03 am to
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Sophandros



Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:03 am to
Is that a good thing or shitty?
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:08 am to
eddie bird played at ISU

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The home arena and uniform look pretty much the same, even if the former isn't as full and the latter isn't as filled out. The face and playing style are familiar, too, though the mug is more youthful and the moves are rougher. The surname, alas, is the only thing Indiana State freshman Eddie Bird gets exactly right as yet. There are easier fates than being Larry Bird's kid brother.

It seems, for example, that whenever someone mentions that Eddie broke Larry's career scoring record at Springs Valley High in French Lick, Ind., someone else points out that Eddie's 1,172 points came in four full seasons, while Larry missed virtually his entire sophomore year with an injury and still scored 1,125. Consider, too, that when Larry bought his widowed mother, Georgia, a new house in 1983, he installed, in time for Eddie's sophomore year in high school, a full basketball court, complete with Plexiglas backboards, in the front yard. If Eddie makes it big, no one will say he had to overcome hardship to do it.

And to make it a little tougher, Eddie chose to follow the famous footsteps straight to the school that Larry took to the NCAA final in 1979. Still, Eddie, a 6'6", 190-pound swingman, is the leading scorer (12.7 points a game through last weekend) and free throw shooter (.889) for the 4-11 Sycamores. He has improved mightily since Indiana State's third game of the season, an 81-67, Dec. 3 loss at Boston U; Eddie took an oh-fer against the Terriers, launching 11 bricks with big brother watching.

"I don't mean this as an excuse," Eddie said last week after scoring 19 in a 79-68 loss to Bradley, "but I had a hard time seeing in Boston. I got contact lenses since then, and now I'm shooting 50 percent." He anticipates other improvements, too. "I've got a pretty good shot fake," he says (sound familiar?), "and this summer I hope to grow a couple inches and work with the weights, so Coach [Ron] Greene will let me play inside more." The extra strength should come; the extra height may not. Eddie, who sat out last season because of academic deficiencies, is indeed a rare bird: a 21-year-old freshman.

Whatever his height, Eddie should find next season more pleasant because he won't be the only Sycamore sibling under scrutiny. A Houston schoolboy star chose Indiana State last spring largely because he heard that Larry Bird's little brother had enrolled there. Taju Olajuwon, little brother of the NBA Rockets' Akeem, is spending his first year on campus as Eddie did, elevating his grades. For now, you can find both Eddie and Taju in an Introduction to Theatre class; perhaps they can draw some Shakespearean inspiration from All's Well That Ends Well.

Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:10 am to
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I thought they had a lil sucess after Bird with a guard that I can't rememba the name of now, but your right haven't heard nothing from them since.


The point was a guy named Carl Nix. Very quick and a good penetrator and shooter. I think the guy played in the league a little while. Magic was great but Greg Kelser, also an NBA player made the difference that day.

A great game and time to remember. Did Magic and Bird go 1-2 in the draft? Hard to believe the lakers and celts had the 1-2 picks if so.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:15 am to
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Did Magic and Bird go 1-2 in the draft?

no, bird was drafted by the Celtics the year before (he was draft eligible)

the celtics held his rights until the next season, they signed him immediately after the Final Four

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1979–1981: Immediate impact

The Boston Celtics selected the 6'9", 220-pound Bird 6th overall in the 1978 NBA Draft, even though they were uncertain whether he would enter the NBA or remain at Indiana State to play his senior season. Bird ultimately decided to play his final college season, but the Celtics retained their exclusive right to sign him until the 1979 NBA Draft, because of the NBA's "junior eligible" rule that existed at that time (allowing a collegiate player to be drafted when the player's original "entering" class was graduating and giving them one calendar year to sign them, even if they went back to college). Shortly before that deadline, Bird agreed to sign with the Celtics for a US $650,000 a year contract, making him at the time the highest-paid rookie in the history of the NBA. Shortly afterwards, the NBA draft eligibility rules were changed to prevent teams from drafting players before they were ready to sign. The rule is called the Bird Collegiate Rule.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:17 am to
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Did Magic and Bird go 1-2 in the draft? Hard to believe the lakers and celts had the 1-2 picks if so.


Pretty sure the Lakers had made a trade like they did with the '82 pick for Worthy.

Auerbach drafted Bird in some type of either supplemental draft or maybe with his last pick (several more rounds back then) and the '78-'79 Celtics were indeed awful to generate a #1 or 2 pick.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:20 am to
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Indiana State in the National Title game would be like USL or Southern Miss in the title game

Hey now, Southern Miss has a NIT championship!
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:26 am to
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Pretty sure the Lakers had made a trade like


With the New Orleans Jazz- Magic in New Orleans with Maravich would have been fun to watch
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 10:28 am to
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not undefeated, but marquette has fallen back into virtual obscurity before Dwayne Wade


They WON the NC in 77?, they are in the Big East, I think most consider that a major conference.
This post was edited on 4/7/09 at 10:37 am
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