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Michael Jordan’s 1988 DPOY might have been fraudulent

Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:09 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:09 am
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The DPOY gave Jordan something that LeBron James, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Magic Johnson never had: recognition for being the NBA’s best defender.

But a closer look at Jordan’s 1987-88 season reveals a substantial discrepancy between his home and road statistics, raising questions about the authenticity of his off-the-charts steals and blocks numbers that season — and shining a light on an era that seemed particularly vulnerable to the hidden hand of homer bias.

Considerable evidence — both statistical and corroborating video — suggests that Jordan’s Defensive Player of the Year award may not be as valid as we thought.


For almost four decades, Jordan’s lone DPOY has stood unquestioned. We took a deeper look after a recent discussion with a man named Alex Rucker, who pulled back the curtain on the complicated role of an NBA home statkeeper.

Rucker is currently the CEO of a Boys & Girls Club in Texas and was once a top executive for the Philadelphia 76ers in 2020. Before that, he was a former statkeeper for the Vancouver Grizzlies and was an employee during their inaugural season in 1995-96. In February, Rucker told me he was among a number of home scorekeepers in the 1990s who selectively juiced the numbers for their players. In our interview for "Pablo Torre Finds Out," Rucker explained that, in his view, inflating certain box-score statistics for the home team was a common league-wide practice.

Breaking out his numbers into game location, we find that Jordan averaged a mind-boggling 4 steals and 2.1 blocks at home. But on the road, those numbers shrunk to a more normal rate of 2.1 steals and 1.2 blocks.

Put simply, Jordan’s steals and blocks nearly doubled at home compared to the road. To account for possible uneven playing time effects, we can look at per-36-minute numbers for a truer portrayal of the phenomenon. Jordan’s combined block and steals numbers (“stocks”) were a whopping 82 percent higher at home (5.5 stocks per 36 minutes) than on the road (3.0).

It isn’t unusual for the NBA’s top defender to exhibit a slight home/road disparity. It’s common knowledge that players perform better at home in front of friendly confines (as Jackson showed last season).

But the size of Jordan’s 1987-88 gap is unprecedented.

A pattern emerged as the games began to pile up in our film review. It appeared that Jordan benefited from deflections being erroneously recorded as steals. In games where there was a surplus of Jordan steals, we noticed that the turnover/steal counts would closer align after we counted the defensive plays that Jordan poked the ball out of bounds or back into the hands of the opposing team — even if there was no change of possession.

Steals should not be awarded in these instances, but Jordan seemed to benefit from the apparent generosity. And here’s the thing: when other players made the same deflections on both teams, their steal counts tended to be scored by the book — that is, correctly. Twelve steals in six games for Jordan (two steals per game) would be much more in line with his road average that season (2.3) rather than his official home average of four steals.

In the block category, it seemed that Jordan also benefited from some exceptional statkeeping. For instance, whenever Chicago Bulls forward Horace Grant blocked a shot but was whistled for the foul, he was, correctly, not credited with a block. But when Jordan did the same, his box score line tended to show excess blocks.


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Posted by death valley driver
CHOPPA CITY
Member since Jul 2004
11643 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:21 am to
MIGHT have been?

They clearly cooked the BOOKS for him at home and anyone who can’t accept that doesn’t live in reality.


Muh MJ, muh 6-0, muh GOAT



DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
12381 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:24 am to
Dominion Player of the Year?
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
39508 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:29 am to
Lebron didn’t need extra help from stat keepers
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Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
81727 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:32 am to
Oh frick da DRIVE MAN
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
126169 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:32 am to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38000 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:44 am to
The argument is league-wide home cooking....which we never thought involved stat-keepers. Just refs.

That is embarrassing for the the NBA to not have professional independents but just take the team at face value.

This is high school level shenanigans.

But, who really cares? So many stats are tainted these days.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28290 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 1:29 am to
I think it is fair to raise the question this is what people on sports forums do all day every day. That said before you write it up and pretend it is journalism you have to do the hard work. Get film of around 15 home games that year go through them and maybe work up a companion video to show your work. Then compare that to the "home cooking" provided to other high level defensive players that year going through a similar number of games. IIRC it might be guys like Hakeem and the center for Utah (can;t remember his name) in 87/88.

This is the period I was watching a lot of NBA at least considering the number of games televised in my area and just going on memory Hakeem was probably the best of the rest defensively then but it is hard to compare centers to guards directly on defense. IMO again going on memory Jordan was really at his peak defensively and his movement, determination and the fear in the eyes of other players during that time makes it hard for me to accept even with some padded stats that he wasn't the legit DPOY that year despite getting manhandled in the conference semis by the Pistons.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
9870 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 1:40 am to
Anecdotally, I've long heard grumblings that several star players from that time period might have crazy discrepancies between home and away stats. I always heard it in relation to Utah home cooking with John Stockton's assists and steals.

But I imagine a lot of players might have similar home benefits, like Rodman/Barkley with rebounds and Gary Payton with steals. They're still great players, but the stat cooking was seemingly a part of the times.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10739 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 3:43 am to
I was a huge Mark Price fan in the late 80s and the Cavs were super loaded at that time. They were legit the best team of the Era and primed for multiple championships. But the Bulls were in the way.

There was one playoff series, where Jordan guarded Price one on one. It basically ended Price's career. He never recovered from how bad he played. It was the greatest defensive series I've ever seen from a guard. I don't really care about the numbers or stats. I saw how vicious Jordan was on the defensive side. Pippen eventually surpassed him, as a defender. But that was much further down the road.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48697 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 4:45 am to
Doesn’t the argument cut both ways? If scorekeepers in the 1980s and 1990s exhibited home bias, the wouldn’t Jordan’s steals, rebounds, and blocks be severely undercounted on the road?


And, scorekeeper bias aside, we all witnessed it. He was the best basketball player in history and it isn’t close. LeBron needs to start working on arguments that keep him in the Top 5.
Posted by CONNECTICUTTIGER
RHODE ISLAND
Member since Apr 2006
1081 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:01 am to
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center for Utah (can;t remember his name) in 87/88.


Mark Eaton
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27681 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:52 am to
Back then, every team used to pump up their star player’s stats at home. It wasn’t just the Bulls.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
6601 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:35 am to
So Jordan was the only player in nba history to benefit from home cookin’…got it.


bron baws still trying
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13073 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:52 am to
The one true king is so good that people are going back 4 decades for a "gotcha". Over a meaningless award.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86392 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:23 am to
MJ is most likely a top 3 player all time.

But damn it’s hard to sift through the bullshite fantasy that was concocted to lift him up plus he had the Phil Jackson system + Scottie + best rebounded/defender in the league + 6th man of the year + they were very good without MJ.



I find it silly that anyone would say confidently that he’s better than Lebron. Lebron is being drafted first in an all time redraft.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61156 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:34 am to
So we are now questioning a DPOY award 36 years after the fact?
The writers should have used more than just blocks and steals per game stats before voting. Perhaps they factored in the timing of Jordan's defensive intensity, the fact that he averaged a career high 40.4 minutes/game while playing in all 82 and averaging 35 ppg. A lot harder to summon up that energy on defense in crunch time when you're working that hard on the other end.

Anyway, they can take away his DPOY. But he should have won 5 more MVPs if we're revising history. I LOVE Magic Johnson, but Jordan should have won all 3 of Magic's ('87, '89, '90). Should have won Barkley's in '93 and Karl Malone's 1st in '97. So let's take away that 1 DPOY, but give him 10 MVPs instead of just the 5 he was awarded. Does that hurt or help his GOAT claim?
Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1766 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:58 am to
It was league wide home cooking so everyone’s home stats were inflated. Not just Mj
Posted by Krane
Member since Oct 2017
1471 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:09 am to
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MJ is most likely a top 3 player all time.


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112415 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:14 am to
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He was the best basketball player in history and it isn’t close
Anyone who thinks it isn't close between MJ, Lebron and Kareem us is probably being way too biased.

All 3 have very solid arguments to a claim as the GOAT. If one can't accept that premise, I'd think they're not arguing in good faith.
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LeBron needs to start working on arguments that keep him in the Top 5.


There is zero logic that can be used to argue Lebron any lower than 3.
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