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NBA Mock Draft Question (Luka Garza related)
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:50 pm
Why does the draft place so much emphasis on Athleticism, Potential and age? I get it, you want younger guys but players that stayed 3 or 4 years in college shouldn’t be penalized.
Almost every expert has Luka Garza going late 2nd round. Who gives af if the kid can’t jump that high? He’s a damn baller. He can score from anywhere on the court effectively, is a great passer, has great size and outplayed anybody he went up against which includes more athletic players so what gives?
I don’t think a guy who was almost a 2 time Wooden Award winner that over 23 points, 8 rebounds, and 1 block per game the past 2 seasons should go that low in the draft. Not to mention he did it shooting over 50% from the field and freaking 44% from 3pt range. Oh yeah he played over 30 games in each season, 0 injury concerns from a big man is unheard of. He’s the perfect skilled 4 or 5 you’d want in today’s NBA.
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Almost every expert has Luka Garza going late 2nd round. Who gives af if the kid can’t jump that high? He’s a damn baller. He can score from anywhere on the court effectively, is a great passer, has great size and outplayed anybody he went up against which includes more athletic players so what gives?
I don’t think a guy who was almost a 2 time Wooden Award winner that over 23 points, 8 rebounds, and 1 block per game the past 2 seasons should go that low in the draft. Not to mention he did it shooting over 50% from the field and freaking 44% from 3pt range. Oh yeah he played over 30 games in each season, 0 injury concerns from a big man is unheard of. He’s the perfect skilled 4 or 5 you’d want in today’s NBA.
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This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 1:53 pm
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:56 pm to NamariTiger
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I don’t think a guy who was almost a 2 time Wooden Award winner that over 23 points, 8 rebounds, and 1 block per game the past 2 seasons should go that low in the draft.
What are your thoughts on Frank Kaminsky?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:57 pm to NamariTiger
You can make this kind of post for a shite ton of guys who ended up stinking in the NBA
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:57 pm to NamariTiger
I wouldn't draft him with a lottery pick and maybe not even a late first, but I have no idea why a ton of people have him going undrafted.
This seems like one of those stories like Trubisky/Watson(minus the current events).
Some team will pick some huge project because his vertical is 40" while the player that showed nothing but production (Garza) gets passed up.
I'm not saying he's going to be a star or a starter, but he seems like a good bet to be a rotational piece.
This seems like one of those stories like Trubisky/Watson(minus the current events).
Some team will pick some huge project because his vertical is 40" while the player that showed nothing but production (Garza) gets passed up.
I'm not saying he's going to be a star or a starter, but he seems like a good bet to be a rotational piece.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:57 pm to c on z
Lmao wow and just like that you got me stumped C... I don’t like it but I see your point on Frank the Tank.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:57 pm to NamariTiger
He is another Adam Morrison
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:58 pm to c on z
How about Adam Morrison?
You can't teach athleticism.
Teams that are the worst, that are at the top of the lottery, have to gamble on athleticism. When you are bad, you go for guys with the highest ceilings.
Teams that are already good go for the already developed players that have high floors but very low ceilings. Those guys are often decent role players but you can't draft role players if you stink. You need difference makers.
You can't teach athleticism.
Teams that are the worst, that are at the top of the lottery, have to gamble on athleticism. When you are bad, you go for guys with the highest ceilings.
Teams that are already good go for the already developed players that have high floors but very low ceilings. Those guys are often decent role players but you can't draft role players if you stink. You need difference makers.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:00 pm to Fun Bunch
You all make great points, I’m guess I’m hoping there’s a chance he’s another Jokic (drafted 41st in the 2nd round) Maybe some team will take the chance on him or even Marc Gasol.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:13 pm to c on z
The thing is Kaminsky would be considered a steal if he was the 49th pick in his draft year. The GM would be considered a “shrewd evaluator of talent who can spot market inefficiencies to find solid incremental value.”
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:19 pm to NamariTiger
Luka Garza, will incredibly skilled, will get athletically eaten alive in the NBA. The difference in athleticism between the Big 10 and the NBA is mind boggling. He won't be able to defend anyone, he won't be able to get around anyone, and he isn't shooting over anyone in the post in the NBA.
He might have a career as a bench player who can come in and hit spot up threes but that's a out it.
He might have a career as a bench player who can come in and hit spot up threes but that's a out it.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:15 pm to NamariTiger
Glad you didn't claim he played against the best completion. 
Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:17 pm to Yancy turnip
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He is another Adam Morrison
This is such a terrible take. Morrison was killing it in the NBA until he suffered his knee injury.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:26 pm to ihometiger
quote:
This is such a terrible take. Morrison was killing it in the NBA until he suffered his knee injury.
11 points a game on 12 average attempts per game is killing it?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:38 pm to wildtigercat93
Morrison was 6'8'' and Garza is nearly 7 foot and can hit a 3. I don't think that's a like comparison at all.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:45 pm to gobuxgo5
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Frank Kaminsky was not nearly the shooter Garza is.
Uh, Frank was a better shooter from 3 - 36.9% vs 36.7%, for their careers.
If you're looking at just senior year it's damn close.
Kaminsky
2 - 58.1%
3 - 41.6%
Garza
2 - 58.1%
3 - 44.0%
Frank shooting it at just over 40% from 3 this season, which is not bad for a 7 footer.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:50 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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h, Frank was a better shooter from 3 - 36.9% vs 36.7%, for their careers.
If you're looking at just senior year it's damn close.
Kaminsky
2 - 58.1%
3 - 41.6%
Garza
2 - 58.1%
3 - 44.0%
Frank shooting it at just over 40% from 3 this season, which is not bad for a 7 footer.
I deleted that a few minutes ago. Pretty good quote job you just did to catch that before I retracted that part.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:40 pm to NamariTiger
Have you seen Garza run or move laterally? It’s not pretty. He can play as a bench guy but I don’t see how he can ever be a starter for a good team.
Enes Kanter is a decent comp, I think. Kanter puts up numbers when he gets the chance to start/play big minutes, but it’s hard to cobble together even a decent defense with Kanter out there.
Enes Kanter is a decent comp, I think. Kanter puts up numbers when he gets the chance to start/play big minutes, but it’s hard to cobble together even a decent defense with Kanter out there.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 7:39 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Numbers look similar but Garza just seems more skilled offensively than I remember Kaminsky being in college. Maybe it’s recency bias.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 7:47 pm to TigahJay
Kaminsky was/is a better athlete
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:44 pm to NamariTiger
Chill out guy it’s just mock drafts them dudes are about 90% incorrect in the “expert” prediction. Hell they change their mind at least 7 times and still are wrong. As long as 1 team likes what he brings to the table he will be a nba player
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