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NBA was pretty watered down in the 90’s
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:10 pm
In the late 80’s and early 90’s the NBA added a ton of new teams prior to the European influx of players.
In 1988 the NBA added the Charlotte Hornets and the Miami Heat
In 1989 the NBA added the Orlando Magic and the Minnesota Timberwolves
In 1995 the NBA added the Toronto Raptors and Vancouver Grizzlies
That is going from 23 teams to 29 in seven years. That would be like the NFL going from where it is now to 40 teams by 2027 without any increase in talent. Look at today’s NFL quarterbacks and imagine eight of the bench players at an being starters
The NBA has reached its highest levels in the 80’s (pre expansion) and now (post European player influx). The NBA May have expanded to fast and as a result allowed very inferior teams to exist from 1988 to 2000.
In 1988 the NBA added the Charlotte Hornets and the Miami Heat
In 1989 the NBA added the Orlando Magic and the Minnesota Timberwolves
In 1995 the NBA added the Toronto Raptors and Vancouver Grizzlies
That is going from 23 teams to 29 in seven years. That would be like the NFL going from where it is now to 40 teams by 2027 without any increase in talent. Look at today’s NFL quarterbacks and imagine eight of the bench players at an being starters
The NBA has reached its highest levels in the 80’s (pre expansion) and now (post European player influx). The NBA May have expanded to fast and as a result allowed very inferior teams to exist from 1988 to 2000.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:12 pm to VA LSU fan
We get it, LeBron's the goat for you
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:13 pm to VA LSU fan
The heat magic and Hornets were all playoff teams by the mid 90s. Hell Jordan's bulls had to go through Orlando in 96 and Miami in 97 in the conference finals.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:17 pm to VA LSU fan
I'll say this about the '90s basketball. I can't think of an era where there were so few teams with 2+ star players. Who was the second best player on Patrick Ewing's Knicks teams? What about the second best player on Hakeem's Rockets? Reggie Miller's Pacers? Drexler's Blazers? All of those teams had one star offensive player and that was basically it.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:24 pm to Bench McElroy
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What about the second best player on Hakeem's Rockets?
I mean Drexler was pretty good, you even mentioned him.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
Players were more spread out
More parity
Clippers were petty bad
More parity
Clippers were petty bad
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:41 pm to VA LSU fan
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VA LSU fan
shares that chinese dick with bron bron
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
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We get it, LeBron's the goat for you
I never mentioned James. I actually think Magic is the goat (he played against elite teams in the Celtics, Pistons, and Sixers and his career was cut short) followed by MJ and James tied, then Shaq, Kobe, Kareem, Bird, Russell, Duncan, Durant, and maybe Chamberlain
The warriors of the last three years would have swept most NBA finals team from 1990 to 2019 if healthy. Maybe the Shaq, Kobe Lakers put up a fight or Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker could pose problems but I can’t think of any other team that could score enough points to stay close. Not Lebron or MJ could do enough to slow down the Warriors.
1996 -1998 Bulls would struggle because Rodman and Green would just irritate each other and basically cancel each other out. That leaves MJ and Pippen vs. Curry, Thompson, and Durant. This would be a horrible matchup.
2000-2003 Lakers. Shaq would have dominated against the Warriors but it would come down to Kobe shutting down either Thompson or Durant for the Lakers to win. The team with Rice may have beaten the Warriors but after that I think the Warriors would win. This is coming from a Lakers fan.
Some of the mid 2000’s Spurs could have posed problems as Duncan would destroy Green and Ginobli and Parker would at least pose problems for Curry and Thompson defensively. Also Popavich is a better coach than Kerr which is something Kerr has never faced in the conference finals in or finals.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:47 pm to LSUJuicer
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Okay junior.
He's not wrong.
In 95-96, the Grizzlies were led by Greg Anthony and Blue Edwards. People remember the good teams, but the talent pool was diluted and there were some really weak teams.
Edit: and this shouldn't be a MJ/LeBron topic.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:54 pm to Bench McElroy
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Hakeem's Rockets
Otis Thorpe was a 20/10 guy in Sacramento who became a role player in Houston.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:55 pm to VA LSU fan
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maybe Chamberlain
greatest team ever.
wilt. hof
l jackson
chet walker hof
goukas hof
greer hof
6th man hofer cunningham
Posted on 5/20/20 at 6:59 pm to CelticDog
Check out some of those Celtics teams in the 60s. Don’t think Russell won any championship with less than 4 other HoFers on the roster. Believe there was one season they had 7 HoFers on the team.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:06 pm to nicholastiger
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Clippers were petty bad
In 95-96, the Clips were led by Loy Vaught, Bison Dele and Terry Dehere.
The league was definitely more diluted than mid-80's.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:11 pm to Rep520
Oh yea the 90s had NBA Jam! Each team had two players and half of the teams I wish I could pick the second player I wanted lol.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:16 pm to Bench McElroy
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Who was the second best player on Patrick Ewing's Knicks teams?
Oakley, Starks??
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What about the second best player on Hakeem's Rockets?
Drexler
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Reggie Miller's Pacers?
thats a tough one. Smits? Mark Jackson? Dale Davis?
at least the Jazz had Malone and Stockton.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:18 pm to VA LSU fan
quote:The NBA was already bringing in a lot of talent from Europe in the 80's. It was watered down but not nearly as much as you think.
That would be like the NFL going from where it is now to 40 teams by 2027 without any increase in talent.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:20 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Check out some of those Celtics teams in the 60s. Don’t think Russell won any championship with less than 4 other HoFers on the roster. Believe there was one season they had 7 HoFers on the team.
Winning a bunch of titles is a demonstrable advantage to HoF election.
Lombardi's Packers
Noll's Steelers
Stengel's Yankees
Auerbach's Celtics
etc
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:I love how one thread that doesnt deify Jordan gets a "we get it" but people have gotten to vomit out multiple threads about lebron since Sunday
We get it, LeBron's the goat for you
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 7:22 pm
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