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Nephew Just Signed to Play College Basketball (It's Tough These Days)

Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:37 pm
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22053 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:37 pm
Nephew is a pretty good player. 6'3/170 with a nice shot, excellent court sense and pretty damn good handles. Good enough to play at the next level apparently.

So he signed today.

DAMN, the recruitment landscape for basketball has changed so damn much. My brother was about the same skill level and size as my nephew. When he was a senior, he was getting letters from schools across the country weekly. The mailbox was full every day. His grades pushed him out of some opportunities, but they all had interest junior and senior year.

My nephews process? It was worlds apart. Universities don't seem to want to go after high school kids anymore outside of the TOP 150. I guess it makes sense. WHy waste the resources going to tournaments and games when you can just let the JUCOs do that, and if they pan out, you scoop them up the next year.

Either way, I'm proud of the kid. He worked hard. He achieved this goal, and I wish him the best of luck.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99027 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:40 pm to
Transfer portal had completely altered the landscape
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22053 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:42 pm to
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Transfer portal had completely altered the landscape


Yeah, and I think we have some 24 year olds still playing on a Covid year waiver. Lot of Doctors on the court next year.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47729 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 11:53 pm to
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My brother was about the same skill level and size as my nephew.


Maybe he was playing at a HS that opened more doors for him?

Division I college coaches don’t want to develop because if they develop someone too good, they’ll go in the portal. they want to win and generally older players are better for that. It’s risky to take a freshman when who knows if he’ll be there or you’ll be there a few years
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 7:02 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35582 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:36 am to
A really good AAU program and league gets a kid tons of looks from college coaches. High school ball? Not so much.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27656 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:45 am to
Two words for your nephew:

Gaelic Hurling

It's the sport of the future
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59568 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:10 am to
Hurling players play for county pride not money, no?
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22053 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:56 am to
Not going to go into details because I don't want to cause local drama, but my nephew wasn't necessarily helped much by his hs coaches. But talent and skill win out.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18021 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:33 am to
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but my nephew wasn't necessarily helped much by his hs coaches.

I don't think public school coaches are actually paid to do this. In sports that have significant club sport presence, they're usually the least qualified coaches, and should be treated as such.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4424 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:57 am to
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A really good AAU program and league gets a kid tons of looks from college coaches. High school ball? Not so much.


As a former HS coach that was blessed enough to have several kids that went on to play at the next level this is just flat out false. AAU is a shell of what it was. It's barely real basketball. All the kids I had that got the opportunity to play at the next level were recruited in our gym. They came to games and practices. They met with the kids in my office. Of course playing AAU can help all that but just because it's easier to see a bunch of kids at once.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1425 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:22 am to
Best route nowadays may be to start at a program/level lower than the player's ability so that he has the best chance of 1) getting PT and 2) move up to a higher level.

Start at a higher level, you risk sitting on the bench, then transfer lower when the year ends. Then if you do well, you transfer back up to a higher level where PT again will be up in the air. Seems like a waste of 4 years.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22053 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:26 am to
quote:

I don't think public school coaches are actually paid to do this. In sports that have significant club sport presence, they're usually the least qualified coaches, and should be treated as such


Pay has little to do with it. I'm the son of a coach and AD. No one gets into coaching for the money. And what's more we are talking about 17 year old kids. Coaches help them because it's the right and good thing to do. You make the call. You send the tape. You sing their praises because it's the right thing to do. What's more it looks good on you if you can place kids at the next level.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22053 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:33 am to
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Best route nowadays may be to start at a program/level lower than the player's ability so that he has the best chance of 1) getting PT and 2) move up to a higher level.

Start at a higher level, you risk sitting on the bench, then transfer lower when the year ends. Then if you do well, you transfer back up to a higher level where PT again will be up in the air. Seems like a waste of 4 years.


Yeah it was just a weird experience because I can objectively rate his ability and confirm it with others who know more.

Yeah he needs to fill out and refine his game but 20 years ago with his skills that was enough to get a look from low to mid majors. He got all the awards and team placements, but when I would ask him who was talking to him he would go crestfallen and say, No one.

And I didn't know why.

He caught on and on proud and happy but recruiting is just so different now.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23141 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:37 am to
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Transfer portal

Needs to DIAF.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27656 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 5:58 pm to
Ehhhhhhh. I've yet to meet an Irishman who was allergic to beer, whiskey or money. But yeah, it's really not about the money as far as I can tell. But the sport intrigues me . Some tough lads playing that game.
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