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NIL allows for unlimited roster sizes

Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:17 am
It’s damn nuts, but that’s what’s happening. Hopefully athletes push back and go play somewhere willing to give them a scholarship. Not sure kids care enough about that now though.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:19 am to
Who is doing this?
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:20 am to
Schools that can.
Posted by HappyTigerDay
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2011
827 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:20 am to
Athletes are not going to accept a walk-on role b/c of NIL. They will choose the school that offers a scholarship spot along with NIL.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56555 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:20 am to
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It’s damn nuts, but that’s what’s happening. Hopefully athletes push back and go play somewhere willing to give them a scholarship


Why would an athlete care about getting a scholarship over cash money?

That's irrational.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26809 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:20 am to
Is there any proof this is happening in any numbers?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7873 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:21 am to
Name them. Be specific.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Athletes are not going to accept a walk-on role b/c of NIL.


Yea, well the schools are pushing for it…I hope you’re right.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:22 am to
I don't even know why we're still pretending to require them to be enrolled in classes anyway at this point, honestly.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26809 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:22 am to
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Why would an athlete care about getting a scholarship over cash money?

That's irrational.


Because scholarships are tax free, and tuition/room/board can be very expensive, especially at a private school or if you are out-of-state.

And outside of a small amount of players at a small amount of schools, the players aren't getting near enough NIL money for this to even be a question.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7873 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:23 am to
What schools? You are making claims without any proof.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7873 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:25 am to
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Why would an athlete care about getting a scholarship over cash money?

The athletes might not as much, but the NIL donors do. A guy that would cost them $500k might cost them $1 million without scholarship benefits. They aren’t going to do that when there’s a guy on scholarship riding the bench that they can process.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 9:26 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26809 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:25 am to
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Yea, well the schools are pushing for it…I hope you’re right.


Is this about kickers? Because schools have pushed for them to be walk-ons, academic scholarships, etc., forever.

I could see a borderline signee/preferred walk-on getting thrown some NIL money to walk-on. But this won't affect any high-level players.

Also, there are rules that prevent this. If you have been "recruited" by a school and then walk-on, you still count against the numbers. There is a specific definition for a recruited player.

Schools have tried to do this long before NIL, thus the rule.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:28 am to
Proof? I sit across the table from SEC coaches and talk offers about my son. I am not going frick his chances up. You go compete again this summer and make them need you. He has full scholarship + NIL at other SEC schools so I just stare at the NIL only coaches with a blank look. We’ll be back, see what they say later.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:29 am to
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There is a specific definition for a recruited player.


They are clearly pushing this to see what the NCAA will do.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7873 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:31 am to
Interesting. How much more are the NIL only schools offering over the scholarship schools?
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by Double Down
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:39 am to
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Schools that can.


Can you name one?
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51262 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:40 am to
Where did Gaston Jr. end up?
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:42 am to
He’ll be a Sr this year, so we’re still talking to coaches. Dead set on the SEC…but we’ll see.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4913 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:50 am to
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NIL allows for unlimited roster sizes


False. Roster still has limits around 125ish. & you still have limited scholarship numbers. You’re assuming we could “pay” for good players to join as walk ons.

Like others have said - show us examples of this happening. Sure, it’s possible, but not many are doing it.
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