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Texas basketball isn't ranked, but 3 of their former coaches have teams in the top 25

Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:42 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42724 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:42 am
#5 Tennessee
#17 Marquette
#22 Ole Miss

looks like it wasn't the coaches who were the problem.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73515 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:49 am to
texas was in the elite 8 last year
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
54426 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:50 am to
Is Ole Miss still gonna be ranked after last night?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59922 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:51 am to
Barnes had run his course there, he was consistently ranked and making the tourney but not making it to the 2nd weekend.

Shaka just didn’t work, seems more fitted to smaller programs.

Beard had them as legit Final Four contenders last year. They made the Elitie Eight with Terry as interim and were favored in that game, now he’s permanent coach. They fired Beard for “off the court” allegations that lead to charges that have since been now been dropped. They will regret that for a long time
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 10:53 am
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31561 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:54 am to
I thought losing tPear was devastating but he’s certainly no chris beard. I’d have melted 10x harder losing a coach that great.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57326 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:59 am to
I learned today that their coach is a huge pussy and berated UCF players in the handshake line for doing the “horns down” gesture after beating them last night.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148010 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:02 am to
quote:

looks like it wasn't the coaches who were the problem.

I mean, what were they gonna do when Beard choked a bitch
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:10 am to
Chris Beard would’ve had Texas as a perennial NC contender. He was also a Longhorn at his dream job so that one will always sting,

Barnes and Shaka had plateaued albeit at different levels.
Posted by WuShock
Metairie
Member since Aug 2018
1366 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:41 am to
I honestly think hiring Terry was a short-sighted move. He took a very talented team to the Elite Eight, but they blew a 12 point lead with ten minutes left to reach the Final Four. I think they could have gotten a better coach and wouldn't have dropped off as much this year.

That being said, they're still a really talented team and could make a run if they pull it together. Disu is a matchup nightmare, Hunter is a heck of a guard, and Mitchell has a ton of upside.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59922 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:47 am to
I just looked it up this is Barnes 9th season at Tennessee already he was at Texas for what 15-16 years? It was time for him to move on.

I really thought Shaka was gonna wreck shop there but Beard? oh my dude had Texas Tech a hair from the title. I think it would have been a matter of when not if for him at Texas
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 11:49 am
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
7491 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

honestly think hiring Terry was a short-sighted move.


It was, but this is the problem with having “named” interim coaches. I realize somebody has to lead but call it co-interim or something with two or more coaches. If you give it a face, and they happen to do well, you get a groundswell of public opinion (and sometimes players as well) clamoring for the interim. Michigan football is about to have that same issue. Holding a team together and doing well in a crisis situation is not the same as maintaining a major program for the long haul.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39086 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

I learned today that their coach is a huge pussy and berated UCF players in the handshake line for doing the “horns down” gesture after beating them last night.


Oh boy.

Every week in the SEC, opposing teams are going to Horns Down all game long.

If they are upset that UCF is mocking them... oh... it's gonna be real bad, real soon
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32009 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Chris Beard would’ve had Texas as a perennial NC contender. He was also a Longhorn at his dream job so that one will always sting,


No question. Perfect set up. Great coach at a job he likely was never going to leave (unless he wanted to try the NBA). I thought it was a terribly short-sighted decision by Texas, no doubt influenced by the very "progressive" culture of Austin. The Texas admin did the right thing initially by suspending him pending further investigation. But pretty early on it became clear those charges were going nowhere and eventually would be dropped. However, the admin panicked and capitulated to "societal pressure"....largely from those who are NOT college basketball fans.

Terry was a dumb hire to anyone with the ability look beyond 2 weeks back in history. The guy had a 10 year history as a HC without any noteworthy accomplishments. If I'm a Texas fan my hope the the hire was more akin to the Zack Arnett football hire at MSU following Leach's unexpected death. One where the admin made it somewhat out of necessity and is able to realize quickly it is going nowhere fast.
Posted by TexSolo
Member since Oct 2023
273 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

I mean, what were they gonna do when Beard choked a bitch


He never choked her, even she admitted that to the cops. But because someone did call the cops, apparently it's a law someone has to be arrested, so he was. bullschiff.

Barnes has always been great in the regular season, going back to Providence and Clemson, but has always shite the bed in the post season. I love the guy and appreciate what he did for us, but doubtful they get to the Elite 8 much less the Sweet 16.

Shaka was more concerned with "changing cultures" on campus while changing his style of play on the court. If he had stayed with his "havoc" style, he'd still be coaching at UT.

Terry is a great guy, LOVES UT, but he's not an elite coach. At least hasn't proven to be anywhere he's been. Can't see him staying with another piss poor year next year.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44727 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

He never choked her, even she admitted that to the cops. But because someone did call the cops, apparently it's a law someone has to be arrested, so he was. bullschiff.


Go read the police report.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27686 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:48 pm to
It continues to amaze me how much credit coaches get by standing on the sideline during a game.

Games are won and lost in the offseason. In practice. That’s where teams and programs are built. Coaching on game day is gravy. Any coach can fill in.

Remember when Luke Walton filled in for Steve Kerr after Kerr had surgery and because they were winning Luke Walton was the new hotness? That was Steve Kerr’s team. That team was already built and running. The Warriors continuing to win had nothing to do with Walton on the sidelines on game day.

Same thing at Texas. That was Beard’s team.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2268 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

thought it was a terribly short-sighted decision by Texas, no doubt influenced by the very "progressive" culture of Austin. The Texas admin did the right thing initially by suspending him pending further investigation. But pretty early on it became clear those charges were going nowhere and eventually would be dropped. However, the admin panicked and capitulated to "societal pressure


Counterpoint:

Charges going nowhere doesn't mean he didn't choke his GF/wife. Charges going nowhere doesn't mean there weren't other instances of DV/volatile behavior indicating a trend that could eventually lead to an extremely bad situation.

Charges going nowhere isn't the test for whether or not someone should be fired. Perhaps they made the right decision, based on facts, and not whether or not charges were going somewhere/nowhere.

My gut feeling is that she's a crazy bitch and he has a temper. She was probably provoking him and being physical while doing it. He decided enough was enough, lost his shite, and manhandled her. Kind of like a Bill Burr "I can think of plenty of reasons to hit a women, you just shouldn't do it" situation. She, of course, doesn't want to lose the gravy train, so she recants.

These things usually aren't one-time/isolated incidents, and "break up with her or lose your job" isn't really an option. The Admin probably was stuck in a "one of these days, one of them is going to kill the other one...we need to end this relationship ASAP" no-win situation.

If...IF (I don't know) they made the right call knowing it would be detrimental to the short-term success of the basketball program, then I applaud them for doing the right thing.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67568 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:41 pm to
Terry is just awful. Crying about horns down refusing to shake hands with some UCF players. So fricking soft.

quote:

Here's what #Texas head coach Rodney said happened in the handshake line with #UCF:

"About 6 or 7 guys putting the horns down. We don't do that because when you do those kinds of things, it looks very classless."

quote:

LSU fans ritualistically eat alligators every year. An Alabama fan poisoned Auburn’s trees. Georgia fans bark at children. Tennessee fans throw golf balls onto the field. Arkansas fans used the Freedom of Information Act on their own coach.

Are we sure Texas is ready for this?
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
6400 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:02 am to
Beard should be coaching. But 'We're Texas' so we had to worry about being better than everyone else. Then compound it by letting social pressure and former players push Terry on us. F'ed up all the way around.
Posted by Lee16884
Member since Jan 2024
1 post
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:52 pm to
The problem is all of those teams are bad at the sport lol.
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