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The biggest rule change in NBA history happened in 2001.. and many don't realize
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:33 pm
Many people out there don't realize how big of an impact the end to the illegal defense rules in 2001 had on how the game is played.
Let me explain what illegal defense was. In simple terms without getting too complicated, each player had to guard his man and could not help out his teammate by coming off of his man and guarding an "area". Today, defensive players can play wherever they want. They don't have to specifically guard their man. Their man can be all the way on the other side of the floor and it's legal.
Here is an example of a Charles Barkley post-up. Look at how the illegal defense rules cleared out the floor:
Look at the lines I drew. Player #1 and player #2 are not allowed to go below the red free throw line I drew because their men are above the 3 point line. Players #3 and #4 cannot go into the lane because their men are far away on the weakside. The only way they can go into the paint is when their man is within arm's length. Look at how much freaking space Charles Barkley has to go 1-on-1:
Here is a clip of Jordan:
Notice #5 John Paxson at the top of the key pointing at his defender. He's trying to tell the ref he's below the free throw line and it should be illegal defense. (He is allowed to double team, but he has to commit to Jordan... he cannot hop back and fourth between both men like he was doing). And look at how much space Jordan has to go 1 on 1. No help defense in the lane. Look at all of the help defenders having to stay on their man while Jordan backs his way in. That's how the rules were.
Another clip of Jordan:
In this clip, look at the white Bulls player at the bottom of the screen. Look at how he points to the Lakers player who is in the paint. He's trying to signal to the referee that he's illegal. Look at the other help defenders who are right on the edge of the paint. They have to be there and it gives Jordan a ton of room. He just has to beat his own man and nobody is there to stop him. Because of the rules opening up the paint, defenders are too slow to stop the jam. And keep in mind that the defender who was too slow was actually illegal... he should have been even slower.
Now, let's look at how that compares to today.
Look at how low David Lee is in the paint. He's in the middle. Harrison Barnes leaves his man and cheats into the middle to help Andre Iguadala. All 3 of them contest the shot. Much different from the space players got before the rules change.
Once Kevin Durant beats his man, both Andrew Bogut and Klay Thompson are waiting to help. They are playing in space off of their man waiting to help. And Curry is in the lane while his man is all the way in the corner. Players now are allowed much more freedom to play in space to stop the ball.
These are the reasons why the post-up game is going extinct, and it's become more of a guard-driven shooter's game.
Players can protect the paint now like they couldn't in the past.
So when you criticize players for shooting too many 3's and not posting up enough, now you know why. The rules dictate how the game is played.
Great 1-on-1 isolation players have it much harder today because isolation today isn't so isolated when other defenders can step up and challenge.
Let me explain what illegal defense was. In simple terms without getting too complicated, each player had to guard his man and could not help out his teammate by coming off of his man and guarding an "area". Today, defensive players can play wherever they want. They don't have to specifically guard their man. Their man can be all the way on the other side of the floor and it's legal.
Here is an example of a Charles Barkley post-up. Look at how the illegal defense rules cleared out the floor:

Look at the lines I drew. Player #1 and player #2 are not allowed to go below the red free throw line I drew because their men are above the 3 point line. Players #3 and #4 cannot go into the lane because their men are far away on the weakside. The only way they can go into the paint is when their man is within arm's length. Look at how much freaking space Charles Barkley has to go 1-on-1:

Here is a clip of Jordan:

Notice #5 John Paxson at the top of the key pointing at his defender. He's trying to tell the ref he's below the free throw line and it should be illegal defense. (He is allowed to double team, but he has to commit to Jordan... he cannot hop back and fourth between both men like he was doing). And look at how much space Jordan has to go 1 on 1. No help defense in the lane. Look at all of the help defenders having to stay on their man while Jordan backs his way in. That's how the rules were.
Another clip of Jordan:

In this clip, look at the white Bulls player at the bottom of the screen. Look at how he points to the Lakers player who is in the paint. He's trying to signal to the referee that he's illegal. Look at the other help defenders who are right on the edge of the paint. They have to be there and it gives Jordan a ton of room. He just has to beat his own man and nobody is there to stop him. Because of the rules opening up the paint, defenders are too slow to stop the jam. And keep in mind that the defender who was too slow was actually illegal... he should have been even slower.
Now, let's look at how that compares to today.

Look at how low David Lee is in the paint. He's in the middle. Harrison Barnes leaves his man and cheats into the middle to help Andre Iguadala. All 3 of them contest the shot. Much different from the space players got before the rules change.

Once Kevin Durant beats his man, both Andrew Bogut and Klay Thompson are waiting to help. They are playing in space off of their man waiting to help. And Curry is in the lane while his man is all the way in the corner. Players now are allowed much more freedom to play in space to stop the ball.
These are the reasons why the post-up game is going extinct, and it's become more of a guard-driven shooter's game.
Players can protect the paint now like they couldn't in the past.
So when you criticize players for shooting too many 3's and not posting up enough, now you know why. The rules dictate how the game is played.
Great 1-on-1 isolation players have it much harder today because isolation today isn't so isolated when other defenders can step up and challenge.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:36 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Many people out there don't realize how big of an impact the end to the illegal defense rules in 2001 had on how the game is played.
People don't realize this? Easily the single biggest rule change in the modern NBA.
Look at all those 90's players begging for calls.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:39 pm to PrimeTime Money
Nicely done.
People see 2 pictures of Jordan getting slapped by the Pistons and think those guys had to overcome dominant defenses to get to the bucket. It's asinine.
People see 2 pictures of Jordan getting slapped by the Pistons and think those guys had to overcome dominant defenses to get to the bucket. It's asinine.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:39 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Many people out there don't realize
srs?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:39 pm to PrimeTime Money
Solid post. Spot on.


This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
People don't realize this? Easily the single biggest rule change in the modern NBA.
I think they know it exists, but I don't think they understand how it worked or how dramatic a change it was.
Everyone says "omg MJ would score 90 points if there was no hand checking" and no one is saying he wouldn't be as dominant, but removing the illegal defense rule more than makes up for no hand checking.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
People don't realize this? Easily the single biggest rule change in the modern NBA.
I think people just overlook the impact it has, especially when talking about post players.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:40 pm to S
quote:Yes, srs. Many people don't even understand illegal defense... which means they don't understand how it it impacted the game compared to now.
srs?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:40 pm to PrimeTime Money
Shh, you're upsetting the nostalgia chirrens
Excellent post, though, in all honesty.

Excellent post, though, in all honesty.

Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:40 pm to PrimeTime Money
In the first two clips is that an illegal offensive?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:41 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
and no one is saying he wouldn't be as dominant
He wouldn't be. The defenses he played against weren't close to today's standards.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:41 pm to PrimeTime Money
But nothing happened in 2001, the post game dominated before and after. It wasn't until 2011 or 2012 when Phil Jackson retired and the NBA was void of great post players that the spread pick and roll 3 point chuckfest began
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:42 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:Looks like Bill Wennington I believe
look at the white Bulls player at the bottom of the screen
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
You are going to piss off a lot of people, and I love it
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
i wish i could find a picture of the illegal defense chart with all the areas. it was complex as frick
and people forget that the game became SO SLOW thanks to the riley-era knicks changing the game. they would drain the shot clock down to prevent mistakes and then go iso-ball and try to score. rebound....go up the court slowly...and then the same dance would emerge. as with all sports, it became too defensive and risk-averse.
the NBA was dying, so they made some great changes
the 8 second rule picked the pace up a bit
the defense was YUGE
and they restricted hand checking, because the refs were letting perimeter defenders get away with murder
the prophet Dantoni showed it was OK to play offense again. he had great timing
and people forget that the game became SO SLOW thanks to the riley-era knicks changing the game. they would drain the shot clock down to prevent mistakes and then go iso-ball and try to score. rebound....go up the court slowly...and then the same dance would emerge. as with all sports, it became too defensive and risk-averse.
the NBA was dying, so they made some great changes
the 8 second rule picked the pace up a bit
the defense was YUGE
and they restricted hand checking, because the refs were letting perimeter defenders get away with murder
the prophet Dantoni showed it was OK to play offense again. he had great timing
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:44 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Coaches and players were still trying to figure out how to play within the new rules. It took a while for everything to balance.
But nothing happened in 2001, the post game dominated before and after. It wasn't until 2011 or 2012 when Phil Jackson retired and the NBA was void of great post players that the spread pick and roll 3 point chuckfest began
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
I'm going to piggy back on your thread with my comparison between the 87-88 All-NBA First Team. These guys are legends but the current crop is just as filthy. These are per 100 possessions-
I know it seems blasphemous, but the 2015-2016 team more than holds their own.
I posted this in the other thread but I put too much time in foe it to get drowned out by Boom and a convo on the worst NBA trolls on the board.

I know it seems blasphemous, but the 2015-2016 team more than holds their own.
I posted this in the other thread but I put too much time in foe it to get drowned out by Boom and a convo on the worst NBA trolls on the board.

Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:46 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
But nothing happened in 2001, the post game dominated before and after. It wasn't until 2011 or 2012 when Phil Jackson retired and the NBA was void of great post players that the spread pick and roll 3 point chuckfest began
phil lost in the finals to a Celtics team whose defense was run by the pioneer Tom Thibodeau
his defensive shifts were almost as revolutionary as the Dantoni offense
and post-2001, teams were forced to value big men differently so they were developed for the neo-NBA. even a guy like tim duncan, who was a dominant post presence, adapted. the coaches found a better way to play basketball and that was with finding efficiency and passing/shooting the ball
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Absolutely not. People think scoring inside is actually easier today
People don't realize this? Easily the single biggest rule change in the modern NBA.

Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:51 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Absolutely not. People think scoring inside is actually easier today
scoring is harder inside, but it is definitely easier outside because of how the game is played.
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