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The NHL should change to a 3-2-1 point system
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:55 pm
The loser point system is the antithesis of what competition is supposed to be about. Make every win worth 3 points. I don’t care if it means Arizona is out of the playoff picture by Christmas.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 10:56 pm
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
make this your platform and I’ll vote for you. this is the one thing in sports that makes me irrationally angry
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It always throws me off
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:12 pm to Draconian Sanctions
What bothers me is every game should be worth the same amount of points. The way it's set up now OT games award out 3 points and regulation games award out 2 points.
Personally I'm fine with doing away with the shootout and extending OT to 10 minutes of 4 on 4 and if they're still tied by then give them each 1 point for a tie, but any winner and loser gets 2 and 0 regardless of if it's regulation or OT. That way every game dishes out 2 points.
I hate the idea of ties too but I think it's better than giving losers a point. Ideally I'd love to just play continuous sudden death but for an 82 game season that just isn't feasible.
Personally I'm fine with doing away with the shootout and extending OT to 10 minutes of 4 on 4 and if they're still tied by then give them each 1 point for a tie, but any winner and loser gets 2 and 0 regardless of if it's regulation or OT. That way every game dishes out 2 points.
I hate the idea of ties too but I think it's better than giving losers a point. Ideally I'd love to just play continuous sudden death but for an 82 game season that just isn't feasible.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
At first I read this as NFL, and I really couldn’t make sense of it. The only common thread was that Arizona would still be out of the playoff picture by Christmas.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:14 am to WaterLink
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Personally I'm fine with doing away with the shootout and extending OT to 10 minutes of 4 on 4 and if they're still tied by then give them each 1 point for a tie, but any winner and loser gets 2 and 0 regardless of if it's regulation or OT. That way every game dishes out 2 points.
They had that up until the early 2000s. What happened was that OT was utterly useless. It was Lemaire-style trapping, and there were no offensive rushes. Everything was about preserving the tie.
I don't know what the answer is. But going back to the old way probably isn't it. 3-2-1 solves the problem of all games having the same amount of claimable points.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
You are 100% correct. It’s insanity that they haven’t moved to this yet.
Bettman for whatever reason wants to be able to compare point totals across eras which makes zero sense as the number of games is completely different anyways.
I think it’s one of those things that like the Coyotes will disappear once he steps down.
Bettman for whatever reason wants to be able to compare point totals across eras which makes zero sense as the number of games is completely different anyways.
I think it’s one of those things that like the Coyotes will disappear once he steps down.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:24 am to RoyalAir
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3-2-1 solves the problem of all games having the same amount of claimable points.
That would be 3 for regulation win/0 for regulation loss and 2 for OT win/1 for OT loss?
Yeah that solves the claimable points aspect but idk if I like the idea of a winner getting less points because it came in OT. Maybe you could keep the 3/0 in OT and only do the 2/1 if it came to a shootout.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
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he loser point system is the antithesis of what competition is supposed to be about.
?????
Think of it as a 60 minute game where the points go either 2-0 or 1-1
If it’s 1-1 they play for an additional point in overtime and the shootout
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:01 am to Draconian Sanctions
3 points for a win
1 point for OT/shootout loss
0 points for regular loss
This doesn't seem hard.
1 point for OT/shootout loss
0 points for regular loss
This doesn't seem hard.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:13 am to WaterLink
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Maybe you could keep the 3/0 in OT and only do the 2/1 if it came to a shootout.
There’s several different ways to do it, all of which are much better than the current model.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:19 am to Bags of Milk
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Bettman
The Islanders would probably be in Kansas City right now if not for him, but at this point I’m beyond ready for him to go.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
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The loser point system is the antithesis of what competition is supposed to be about
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he NHL should change to a 3-2-1 point system
I know nothing about NHL. I can't tell if you like or hate point systems.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:30 am to WG_Dawg
There’s no real way around some type of point system in hockey. What you want is to incentivize attacking and exciting hockey. What we have now is the opposite of that.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:I’m pretty sure goals are up big from 5 or 10 years ago
There’s no real way around some type of point system in hockey. What you want is to incentivize attacking and exciting hockey. What we have now is the opposite of that.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:45 am to chalmetteowl
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I’m pretty sure goals are up big from 5 or 10 years ago
That’s a low bar. Still well behind the numbers from the mid 80’s to the early 90’s.
If you actually watch the games the product isn’t close to what it was in that era. There’s a number of reasons for that, the points system and the type of hockey it incentives is one of those reasons.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 10:46 am
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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That’s a low bar. Still well behind the numbers from the mid 80’s to the early 90’s.
Out of all 105 seasons the NHL has played, 22-23 ranks 33rd in goals per game (I’m guessing per team) at 3.16. 10 of the seasons above it are before 1950
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:59 am to chalmetteowl
Lies, damn lies, and statistics. It’s not just about pure scoring and more about the type of hockey being played.
Like I said there are multiple reasons for that, but the NHL isn’t going to contract 8 teams so looking at the points system is a semi-realistic way to address the issue most can see with the way the game is being played.
Like I said there are multiple reasons for that, but the NHL isn’t going to contract 8 teams so looking at the points system is a semi-realistic way to address the issue most can see with the way the game is being played.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:08 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics. It’s not just about pure scoring and more about the type of hockey being played.
Seems like you’re the only person in the world complaining about it
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:10 am to chalmetteowl
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Seems like you’re the only person in the world complaining about it
Might want to re read this thread
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