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Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:57 pm to dukke v
quote:
But I would take Hakeem in a heartbeat
quote:
dukke v
I rest my case
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:57 pm to theducks
So you post everything except the actual numbers?
And it's a damn tough question. Starting from scratch with no one else on my roster I think I'd go with Hakeem
And it's a damn tough question. Starting from scratch with no one else on my roster I think I'd go with Hakeem
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:58 pm to theducks
Hakeem Olajuwon had the perfect combination of athleticism and skill. I love his autobiography, especially when he talks about maturing as a player and learning to block shots towards his teammates.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:58 pm to PrimeTime Money
Why just pick certain stats, gotta use them all right?
APG: Duncan 3.0, Olajuwon 2.5
TOV: Duncan 2.4, Olajuwon 3.0
ORTG: Duncan 110 (116 best), Olajuwon 108 (114 best)
DRTG: Duncan 96 (91 best), Olajuwon 98 (93 best)
VORP: Duncan 89.3 (4.7 per season), Olajuwon 77.1 (4.3 per season)
TS%: Duncan 55.1, Olajuwon 55.3
WS: Duncan 206.4 (10.9 per season), Olajuwon 162.8 (9.04 per season)
WS/48: Duncan 0.209, Olajuwon 0.177
USG%: Duncan 27.0, Olajuwon 27.1
PER: Duncan 24.2, Olajuwon 23.6
BPM: Duncan 5.5, Olajuwon 4.9
APG: Duncan 3.0, Olajuwon 2.5
TOV: Duncan 2.4, Olajuwon 3.0
ORTG: Duncan 110 (116 best), Olajuwon 108 (114 best)
DRTG: Duncan 96 (91 best), Olajuwon 98 (93 best)
VORP: Duncan 89.3 (4.7 per season), Olajuwon 77.1 (4.3 per season)
TS%: Duncan 55.1, Olajuwon 55.3
WS: Duncan 206.4 (10.9 per season), Olajuwon 162.8 (9.04 per season)
WS/48: Duncan 0.209, Olajuwon 0.177
USG%: Duncan 27.0, Olajuwon 27.1
PER: Duncan 24.2, Olajuwon 23.6
BPM: Duncan 5.5, Olajuwon 4.9
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:59 pm to jg8623
Are we picking Ramadan Hakeem, Nigerian Akeem, or Americanized Hakeem?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:01 pm to theducks
quote:
Olajuwon
All day. Not because Duncan isn't a legend but because Hakeem was a freakish athlete with no flaws on either end of the floor. And as mentioned, he played in the great big man era.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:02 pm to htran90
Duncan: 5 championships
Hakeem: 2 championships
Hakeem: 2 championships
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:02 pm to htran90
quote:A few things.
Why just pick certain stats, gotta use them all right? APG: Duncan 3.0, Olajuwon 2.5 TOV: Duncan 2.4, Olajuwon 3.0 ORTG: Duncan 110 (116 best), Olajuwon 108 (114 best) DRTG: Duncan 96 (91 best), Olajuwon 98 (93 best) VORP: Duncan 89.3 (4.7 per season), Olajuwon 77.1 (4.3 per season) TS%: Duncan 55.1, Olajuwon 55.3 WS: Duncan 206.4 (10.9 per season), Olajuwon 162.8 (9.04 per season) WS/48: Duncan 0.209, Olajuwon 0.177 USG%: Duncan 27.0, Olajuwon 27.1 PER: Duncan 24.2, Olajuwon 23.6 BPM: Duncan 5.5, Olajuwon 4.9
1. I didn't include things like assists because both have low assist numbers. Who cares if one of them has 0.5 assists more than the other when they both average low assists. No point.
2. And I didn't include all of the advanced stats because there is a lot more volatility when it comes to advanced stats... especially between different eras. It also matters what team each plays on. Many of those stats are dependent of team success and not individual success.
3. The only advanced stat I considered posting was TS%, because it's a tangible advanced stat. It's simply a combined shooting percentage. But I didn't include it because they are virtually tied.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:04 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
quote:
Duncan. He is the best player of the Post-Jordan era.
So Hakeem gets docked because he played when Jordan did?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:05 pm to theducks
I pick the 7 footer who can move like this:
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:06 pm to theducks
My pick would easily be Olajuwon because he doesn't play "boring" and "uninteresting" basketball like Duncan does. 
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:06 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
quote:When players have multiple championships and appearances in the NBA Finals, then I think it's silly to directly compare the number.
Duncan: 5 championships Hakeem: 2 championships
The reason being if a player has multiple championships, it shows that they can lead a team to a title. Which means all of the times that player didn't win the title, it wasn't his fault. He simply was not on a teams good enough. Because the player has proven he can win.
For example... Jordan has "only" 6 titles. He didn't win the title 9 times. Those 9 times are not a reflection of Jordan as a player... it means his team simply wasn't good enough to get it done. He's proven he's a championship-caliber player.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:09 pm to Jwho77
Yep.
Duncan - great player, had some great teams.
But Hakeem was one of those players who you look for each decade...that dominant freak, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq who changes everything the opposing team does on both ends of the court.
You could always attack the Spurs to the bucket after David Robinson left...you couldn't attack the Rockets.
Duncan - great player, had some great teams.
But Hakeem was one of those players who you look for each decade...that dominant freak, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq who changes everything the opposing team does on both ends of the court.
You could always attack the Spurs to the bucket after David Robinson left...you couldn't attack the Rockets.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:11 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The better question is who is the best all time Spur?
Out of this all time starting line up
Gervin
Admiral
Timmy
Alvin
Parker
Leonard will replace Alvin eventually
Out of this all time starting line up
Gervin
Admiral
Timmy
Alvin
Parker
Leonard will replace Alvin eventually
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:18 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
You could always attack the Spurs to the bucket after David Robinson left.
Incorrect
You pulled that straight out of your arse. Wow.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:19 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
You could always attack the Spurs to the bucket after David Robinson left...you couldn't attack the Rockets.
No you couldn't
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:21 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Gif time
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:43 pm to cjared036
quote:
Hakeem did it in the big man era. Had to do it against better competition.
When Duncan started in 97 all the best big men of the 90s were still playing - and he went up against prime Shaq who was probably the best big man in the last 25 years (till at least Kareem)
Robinson retired 02-03
Ewing retired 01-02
Shaq retired 10-11
Smits retired 99-00
Hakeem retired 01-02
Mourning retired 07-08
Mutombo retired 08-09
Divac retired 04-05
I think it is a coin flip. Both are legendary players.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:51 pm to BCMCubs
Duncan and tbh its not close
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