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A Futile and Stupid Gesture (Netflix National Lampoon Biopic)

Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:22 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:22 am
I was cautiously looking forward to this movie. Sometimes taking a documentary and using it as an outline for a biography works really well. Lords of Dogtown did that well by using their Dogtown and Z-Boys documentary and fleshing it out into a biographical film. These guys took Drunk Stoned Brilliant Dead* and turned it into a high school production of Animal House.

*Drunk Stoned Brilliant Dead is a fairly decent documentary looking at the history of the National Lampoon magazine and it's offshoots in other media.

A Futile and Stupid Gesture tries to rely on "hey, we're not taking this seriously" as an excuse to make a crappy movie. Martin Mull narrates and makes sure that you know that THEY know that their movie sucks.

What a wasted opportunity.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32883 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:33 am to
Watched it last week but fell asleep before it ended. I did look up Doug Kenney on Wiki during the movie though. It's a pretty interesting story that could been a better movie. Also I didn't know he was Stork in Animal House.

Never read the magazine but I love this cover.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Never read the magazine but I love this cover.


The magazine wouldn't fly today because the boundaries that they pushed are now the middle-ground for film, TV, and especially the internet.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:42 am to
Pretty much nothing in Nation Lampoon would fly today for a lot of reasons.

I don't have much interest in this biopic, having seen Drunk Stoned Brilliant Dead, which is a pretty great and thorough documentary. But I do think its interesting to see how comedy has changed. A lot of what the Lampoon did was intentionally step on cultural landmines in order to demystify cultural taboos. They would literally make fun of anybody and anything. It was definitely a mantra of Nothing is Sacred.

And current comedy absolutely believes there are cultural taboos that should be honored. I mean, there's your Anthony Jeselniks of the world, but he's notable for how he stands out.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:55 am to
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Pretty much nothing in Nation Lampoon would fly today for a lot of reasons.

The Onion owes a great dept to National Lampoon. Sketches like Dave Chappelle's black klansman are straight out of Lampoon Humor. Family Guy joking about racism, domestic abuse, pedophilia and everything else... There was a time when National Lampoon and Hustler were the only place to find jokes on those topics. Now it's fairly common.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:02 pm to
And The Onion's movie sucked balls. National Lampoon made Animal House.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I mean, there's your Anthony Jeselniks of the world, but he's notable for how he stands out.

He's notable because he's good.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8950 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:22 pm to
I enjoyed the movie but not as much as "Stoned Drunk Brilliant Dead." I'm old enough to have been a National Lampoon subscriber so I remember all of that. I've seen Animal House and Caddyshack hundreds of times each. A few years ago I also bought a CD that has every issue of National Lampoon on it so I can go back and read them again.
Yep, I'm old alright.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23255 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 3:17 pm to
I really enjoyed futile and stupid gesture - maybe because i hadn't seen the other movie but i really liked it. i didn't really know a lot about lampoon or doug kenney so i went in with a blank slate. didn't know how he had died until the end so it was a bit of a shock.

i'll say this - joel mchale is jacked af.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:01 pm to
The documentary was more satisfying simply because telling the story as a narrative was more revealing than a dramatic and scripted movie.

Lots of talent in A Futile and Stupid Gesture but it's still a movie based on facts we already knew.

I had to laugh when they were arguing over the black nightclub scene in Animal House. There wouldn't even be a discussion to be had today.

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
114996 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:21 am to
Just finished it and loveeddd it

I’m a huge David Wain fan tho so the obnoxiously meta humor is right up my alley. Some awesome one liners in this.


Also as a big community guy it was so funny to see Joel McHale playing Chevy Chase
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38002 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 10:54 am to
1981 -
3 magazine subscriptions every kid wanted:





Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
114996 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 11:46 am to
Hi my name is Jesus Christ (not that one)
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 12:34 pm to


I just found out that this cover took a dark, dark turn a few years later: LINK

quote:

In early 1976, Susan Devins, who'd just completed her master's degree in library sciences, was hired as an assistant copyeditor at National Lampoon. Early on her first day she received a phone call.

"Cheeseface is dead," the caller said. "Cheeseface the dog is dead."

Someone had tracked down the black-and-white mutt from the January 1973 cover at the farm where he lived and shot him. After initially thinking the call was a joke, Devins realized the bizarre event had actually taken place and that indeed Cheeseface had been assassinated. She burst into tears, thinking, "Oh my god, what have I gotten myself into."
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3560 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 4:42 pm to
I watched it and liked it.
Thanks didn’t know caddyshack didn’t get good reviews. Did it not do well in the theaters?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
114996 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 5:23 pm to
It made good money compared to its budget (40 mil on a 3 mil budget) but it was critically panned


quote:

The film was met with generally poor reviews upon its original 1980 release. Roger Ebert gave the film two-and-a-half stars out of four and wrote, "Caddyshack feels more like a movie that was written rather loosely, so that when shooting began there was freedom—too much freedom—for it to wander off in all directions in search of comic inspiration".[13] Dave Kehr, in his review for the Chicago Reader, wrote, "The first-time director, Harold Ramis, can't hold it together: the picture lurches from style to style (including some ill-placed whimsy with a gopher puppet) and collapses somewhere between sitcom and sketch farce".[14]
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

1981 -
3 magazine subscriptions every kid wanted:
In the 70's, I bought so many comics at the downtown newsstand that the owner (in spite of me being a kid) let me have the run of the place. They basically sold newspapers and racing forms all day, but they did an okay magazine business.

I didn't push my luck by looking at the Playboys and Penthouses all day, but I looked through every issue of National Lampoon. When I was 14 or so I got the courage to actually buy them.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38002 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 7:45 pm to
Yeah...it was the "risque" mag short of porn.

Hell there was no cellophane or blockers for Playboy or Penthouse or National Lampoon...you could just pull it off the rack and peruse.

But Lampoon was considered taboo. It was raunchy comedy.
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