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All the King's Men w/ Sean Penn as Louisiana Gov. Huey Long
Posted on 2/17/09 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 2/17/09 at 5:36 pm
Not that good of a movie but Sean Penn was incredible. Penn's performance and a stunning supporting cast including Anthony Hopkins, Jude Law, Kate Winslet, and James Gandolfini makes it worth watching. I was wondering if (spoiler) - that was how he was murdered in real life at the end and about how much of the movie is accurate?
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:29 pm to RGCjr01
Sean Penn played the role of Willie Stark not Huey Long. All the King's Men is a fictional work. While there seems to be many similarities, Robert Penn Warren (the author of the book) demies that Stark was based on Long FWIW.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:38 pm to RGCjr01
The murderer wasn't the same, but that is the way he was murdered. You can still stick your fingers in the bullet holes at the old capital.
One of the best casts ever, but movie wasn't all that good IMO. Just something was missing. I enjoyed it just for the sole reason I love history, but this movie had the potential to be GREAT, but fell short.
One of the best casts ever, but movie wasn't all that good IMO. Just something was missing. I enjoyed it just for the sole reason I love history, but this movie had the potential to be GREAT, but fell short.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:40 pm to Indiana Tiger
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Sean Penn played the role of Willie Stark not Huey Long. All the King's Men is a fictional work. While there seems to be many similarities, Robert Penn Warren (the author of the book) demies that Stark was based on Long FWIW.
then he lied. Willie Stark is CLEARLY based on Huey Long. I can't believe the author denied that. Pretty sure it is common knowledge the character is based off of the Kingfish.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
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then he lied. Willie Stark is CLEARLY based on Huey Long. I can't believe the author denied that. Pretty sure it is common knowledge the character is based off of the Kingfish.
It's kind of like Orson Welles claiming that Citizen Kane wasn't based on the life of Hearst.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:49 pm to Hideo Nomo
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It's kind of like Orson Welles claiming that Citizen Kane wasn't based on the life of Hearst.
Or IF Coppola denied the relation between Apocalypse Now and Heart of Darkness. Although that would be pretty impossible to deny

Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:49 pm to Hideo Nomo
Warren not only denied it, he harshly condemned people who took it as Huey Long apologia.
Anyway, the book makes it very clear that Stark is not the main character, but rather a web of characters in a sort of bildungsroman of the narrator.
Anyway, the book makes it very clear that Stark is not the main character, but rather a web of characters in a sort of bildungsroman of the narrator.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:50 pm to Stewie Griffin
well, I can't claim to have read the book so maybe it was different from the movie, but the movie clearly focused on Willie as the main character IMO.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:55 pm to TheCaterpillar
I thought the movie sucked. Penn was good but definitely not what I would have pictured Willie Stark as in the novel. The original movie, however, was much better and Broderick Crawford was exactly the image I had in my head while reading the book.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:57 pm to RGCjr01
this movie was filmed in NOLA and the premiere was on tulane's campus
Posted on 2/17/09 at 7:21 pm to Stewie Griffin
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I thought the movie sucked. Penn was good but definitely not what I would have pictured Willie Stark as in the novel.
I love Sean Penn as an actor. I think he's phenomenal. But I think he was miscast in this role. I really think he was one of the weak links. He really never got it that he needed to be a LIKEABLE, charismatic, populist. The name calling and mud slinging was political sport, and those that did it best, did it with panache.
He came across more like an Earl Long than a Huey Long.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 7:58 pm to Jimbeaux
i agree that it was a great cast, but the over product just wasn't that great. if it wasn't for the fact that i always found Huey Long fascinating, I probably would have hated it. and yes i do think that it was based off of long
Posted on 2/17/09 at 8:25 pm to RGCjr01
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but Sean Penn was incredible
I don't think I've ever read anything on this board that I disagree with more than this, and that's really saying something. Wow. I'll admit I'm not a fan of Sean Penn, but I've never seen him this hilariously awful when he wasn't going full retard. His Stark and the movie itself are shite, which I think his mouth might have been full of based on the unintelligible noises coming from his hyper-emotive face in nearly every scene.
This post was edited on 2/17/09 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 2/17/09 at 8:46 pm to kizomich
this movie put me to sleep
couldnt watch it
couldnt watch it
Posted on 2/17/09 at 8:50 pm to Stewie Griffin
Movie was decent, at best. Penn was incredible, as usual. If anything was wrong with his performance, its that he tried to hard to make Willie Stark his own unique character.
Posted on 2/17/09 at 9:00 pm to Santa Clause
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If anything was wrong with his performance, its that he tried to hard to make Willie Stark his own unique character.
Trying too hard is a problem for him in this movie, along with mumbling his lines, waving his arms around like a lunatic and screaming gibberish at the podium (who the hell would vote for him?) and generally employing every old time Southern hick cliche to come out of Hollywood. Dreadful.
Posted on 2/18/09 at 12:14 am to Indiana Tiger
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Robert Penn Warren (the author of the book) demies that Stark was based on Long
1. Warren wanted to be known as a novelist -- a "creative writer" -- and not as a journalist.
2. If Warren admitted Stark=Huey he could've been sued by Long's relatives, for invasion of privacy. Rea-life murderer Nathan Leopold of "Leopold and Loeb" infamy (the case that inspired Hitchcock's Rope) sued the studio that made Compulsion, a fictional account of the Leopold and Loeb story, when they advertised it was based on the L&L case. Incredibly, he actually won at trial. Fortunately, he lost on appeal.
As to ATKM -- the original is infinitely better. Penn is horribly miscast as Huey/Willie.
Posted on 2/18/09 at 6:34 am to Kafka
Fwiw the original DVD is at Big Lots for $3.
Posted on 2/18/09 at 7:44 am to RGCjr01
I actually liked the newer version of the movie (it usually gets slammed), but Penn was horrible. I don't think I saw the entire older version. I know I watched at least parts of it in a Southern Lit class in undergrad.
And everyone knows damn well Willie Stark was based on HPL despite what RPW said.
And everyone knows damn well Willie Stark was based on HPL despite what RPW said.
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