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All the King's Men w/ Sean Penn as Louisiana Gov. Huey Long

Posted on 2/17/09 at 5:36 pm
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/17/09 at 5:36 pm
Not that good of a movie but Sean Penn was incredible. Penn's performance and a stunning supporting cast including Anthony Hopkins, Jude Law, Kate Winslet, and James Gandolfini makes it worth watching. I was wondering if (spoiler) - that was how he was murdered in real life at the end and about how much of the movie is accurate?
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:29 pm to
Sean Penn played the role of Willie Stark not Huey Long. All the King's Men is a fictional work. While there seems to be many similarities, Robert Penn Warren (the author of the book) demies that Stark was based on Long FWIW.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:38 pm to
The murderer wasn't the same, but that is the way he was murdered. You can still stick your fingers in the bullet holes at the old capital.

One of the best casts ever, but movie wasn't all that good IMO. Just something was missing. I enjoyed it just for the sole reason I love history, but this movie had the potential to be GREAT, but fell short.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:40 pm to
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Sean Penn played the role of Willie Stark not Huey Long. All the King's Men is a fictional work. While there seems to be many similarities, Robert Penn Warren (the author of the book) demies that Stark was based on Long FWIW.


then he lied. Willie Stark is CLEARLY based on Huey Long. I can't believe the author denied that. Pretty sure it is common knowledge the character is based off of the Kingfish.
Posted by Hideo Nomo
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:41 pm to
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then he lied. Willie Stark is CLEARLY based on Huey Long. I can't believe the author denied that. Pretty sure it is common knowledge the character is based off of the Kingfish.


It's kind of like Orson Welles claiming that Citizen Kane wasn't based on the life of Hearst.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:49 pm to
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It's kind of like Orson Welles claiming that Citizen Kane wasn't based on the life of Hearst.


Or IF Coppola denied the relation between Apocalypse Now and Heart of Darkness. Although that would be pretty impossible to deny "The horror, the horror"
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:49 pm to
Warren not only denied it, he harshly condemned people who took it as Huey Long apologia.

Anyway, the book makes it very clear that Stark is not the main character, but rather a web of characters in a sort of bildungsroman of the narrator.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:50 pm to
well, I can't claim to have read the book so maybe it was different from the movie, but the movie clearly focused on Willie as the main character IMO.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:55 pm to
I thought the movie sucked. Penn was good but definitely not what I would have pictured Willie Stark as in the novel. The original movie, however, was much better and Broderick Crawford was exactly the image I had in my head while reading the book.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 6:57 pm to
this movie was filmed in NOLA and the premiere was on tulane's campus
Posted by Afreaux
Conway Bayou
Member since Aug 2007
47019 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 7:04 pm to
Nail em up!
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20793 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 7:21 pm to
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I thought the movie sucked. Penn was good but definitely not what I would have pictured Willie Stark as in the novel.


I love Sean Penn as an actor. I think he's phenomenal. But I think he was miscast in this role. I really think he was one of the weak links. He really never got it that he needed to be a LIKEABLE, charismatic, populist. The name calling and mud slinging was political sport, and those that did it best, did it with panache.

He came across more like an Earl Long than a Huey Long.
Posted by thatguy
Member since Aug 2006
6931 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 7:58 pm to
i agree that it was a great cast, but the over product just wasn't that great. if it wasn't for the fact that i always found Huey Long fascinating, I probably would have hated it. and yes i do think that it was based off of long
Posted by kizomich
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
2281 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 8:25 pm to
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but Sean Penn was incredible


I don't think I've ever read anything on this board that I disagree with more than this, and that's really saying something. Wow. I'll admit I'm not a fan of Sean Penn, but I've never seen him this hilariously awful when he wasn't going full retard. His Stark and the movie itself are shite, which I think his mouth might have been full of based on the unintelligible noises coming from his hyper-emotive face in nearly every scene.
This post was edited on 2/17/09 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/17/09 at 8:46 pm to
this movie put me to sleep

couldnt watch it
Posted by Santa Clause
123 Fake Street
Member since Apr 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 8:50 pm to
Movie was decent, at best. Penn was incredible, as usual. If anything was wrong with his performance, its that he tried to hard to make Willie Stark his own unique character.
Posted by kizomich
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
2281 posts
Posted on 2/17/09 at 9:00 pm to
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If anything was wrong with his performance, its that he tried to hard to make Willie Stark his own unique character.


Trying too hard is a problem for him in this movie, along with mumbling his lines, waving his arms around like a lunatic and screaming gibberish at the podium (who the hell would vote for him?) and generally employing every old time Southern hick cliche to come out of Hollywood. Dreadful.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
149931 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 12:14 am to
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Robert Penn Warren (the author of the book) demies that Stark was based on Long


1. Warren wanted to be known as a novelist -- a "creative writer" -- and not as a journalist.

2. If Warren admitted Stark=Huey he could've been sued by Long's relatives, for invasion of privacy. Rea-life murderer Nathan Leopold of "Leopold and Loeb" infamy (the case that inspired Hitchcock's Rope) sued the studio that made Compulsion, a fictional account of the Leopold and Loeb story, when they advertised it was based on the L&L case. Incredibly, he actually won at trial. Fortunately, he lost on appeal.

As to ATKM -- the original is infinitely better. Penn is horribly miscast as Huey/Willie.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
parts unknown
Member since Feb 2009
4698 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 6:34 am to
Fwiw the original DVD is at Big Lots for $3.
Posted by TigerGrl73
Nola
Member since Jan 2004
21356 posts
Posted on 2/18/09 at 7:44 am to
I actually liked the newer version of the movie (it usually gets slammed), but Penn was horrible. I don't think I saw the entire older version. I know I watched at least parts of it in a Southern Lit class in undergrad.

And everyone knows damn well Willie Stark was based on HPL despite what RPW said.
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