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appreciation for the "old" Perry Mason show
Posted on 4/25/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/25/23 at 1:17 pm
Mrs. ClusterCock (no pics) and I have really gotten into watching the shows on Amazon Prime and trying to figure out who the killer is. We know Perry Mason is going to win but it's well written with interesting characters. We love the whodunit type stuff with courtroom drama included.
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 2:07 pm to ClusterCock
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We know Perry Mason is going to win but it's well written with interesting characters. We love the whodunit type stuff with courtroom drama included.
The old "Perry Mason" show was too much of the "same old, same old" for my taste.
He'd be in court at the end of the show every week and either some member of the gallery or person on the witness stand would break down and confess to the crime, getting his client proven innocent. Too damn predictable on a weekly basis.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 2:17 pm to ClusterCock
When my mother would come to visit us in the winter she would put this show on for hours, we ended up buying a new TV so we wouldn't have to watch Perry Mason.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 3:36 pm to ClusterCock
The cases are pretty complicated.
I absolutely love the feel / vibe of the show. It’s like a fever dream compared to modern America. Everyone is well dressed all the time. Show up at someone’s house at 2am and they are still wearing a tie and ready to have cocktails. The sets and decor are great. Everything is sparkling clean.
A lot of people who got their start in radio are on the show or are guests.
I absolutely love the feel / vibe of the show. It’s like a fever dream compared to modern America. Everyone is well dressed all the time. Show up at someone’s house at 2am and they are still wearing a tie and ready to have cocktails. The sets and decor are great. Everything is sparkling clean.
A lot of people who got their start in radio are on the show or are guests.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 3:55 pm to ClusterCock
I watch it most nights on MeTV.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 4:00 pm to ClusterCock
I wanted to grow up to be Paul Drake.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 4:20 pm to ClusterCock
I once read an interview w/a writer for the show.
He said it was the hardest job in TV.
You were not allowed to explore character in any way. EVERY MOMENT was devoted to plotting. That's why the characters come across as cardboard.
Writing medical shows was tough, he said, b/c they involved so much technical detail. But once you got that covered you could explore character: patient's reaction to illness, interacting w/friends and family, etc...
Interestingly, his favorite genre to wrote for was.. Westerns. And this guy was no country boy -- he was from NYC or someplace. But westerns were very lenient in their requirements. Start off w/a fight scene, and finish w/a shootout or chase climax. For the rest of the running time you could write whatever the hell you wanted.
He said it was the hardest job in TV.
You were not allowed to explore character in any way. EVERY MOMENT was devoted to plotting. That's why the characters come across as cardboard.
Writing medical shows was tough, he said, b/c they involved so much technical detail. But once you got that covered you could explore character: patient's reaction to illness, interacting w/friends and family, etc...
Interestingly, his favorite genre to wrote for was.. Westerns. And this guy was no country boy -- he was from NYC or someplace. But westerns were very lenient in their requirements. Start off w/a fight scene, and finish w/a shootout or chase climax. For the rest of the running time you could write whatever the hell you wanted.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:42 pm to ClusterCock
A couple of years ago I bing watched all seasons of PM, and read the Erle Stanley Gardner books upon which many of the early episodes were based. It's been several years, but with my dementia setting in I can probably watch and enjoy those episodes again.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:19 pm to ClusterCock
I've been watching these for the past month (started on Pluto and moved to Paramount).
I'm about at episode 26 of season 1.
I love them.
I have no problem with a 60 minute TV show having a positive resolution at the end.
The beauty (so far) is the writers getting creative so that the ending isn't just the same thing.
This isn't a "viewer solves the mystery" show as the majority of the time they throw out new information that totally twists the plot at the end. And occasionally, Perry gets a whiff of evidence 2/3 of the way through where I personally should have seen it coming (the fact that every episode isn't the same format makes it more difficult to actually pick up the twist at the end when the hints are given).
I'm about at episode 26 of season 1.
I love them.
I have no problem with a 60 minute TV show having a positive resolution at the end.
The beauty (so far) is the writers getting creative so that the ending isn't just the same thing.
This isn't a "viewer solves the mystery" show as the majority of the time they throw out new information that totally twists the plot at the end. And occasionally, Perry gets a whiff of evidence 2/3 of the way through where I personally should have seen it coming (the fact that every episode isn't the same format makes it more difficult to actually pick up the twist at the end when the hints are given).
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:22 am to meansonny
you gotta love Lt Tragg
Posted on 4/26/23 at 6:06 am to ClusterCock
Who can we get on the case?
We need Perry Mason
Someone to put you in place
Calling Perry Mason again
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We need Perry Mason
Someone to put you in place
Calling Perry Mason again
LINK
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:16 am to ClusterCock
I've been rewatching some too. I found that I have to pay more attention to the people's names so you know who they're talking about later in the show.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 10:22 am to ClusterCock
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Mrs. ClusterCock (no pics)
Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:57 pm to texn
William Talman does a great job as Hamilton Burger.
He gets so animated and upset (Tragg too) anytime Perry gets his way. Burger gets so excited every time he feels like he has Mason cornered.
And at the end of the day, Burger is nothing more than the Washington Generals on the scoreboard for 200 episodes.
He gets so animated and upset (Tragg too) anytime Perry gets his way. Burger gets so excited every time he feels like he has Mason cornered.
And at the end of the day, Burger is nothing more than the Washington Generals on the scoreboard for 200 episodes.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 1:39 pm to ClusterCock
Great time capsule. The cases are almost instantly forgettable. Apparently Raymond Burr was very loyal to the old radio actors he got his start with, hence Tragg and a lot of the recurring character actors. Also, IRL, Hamilton Burger got busted at a pot orgy and thrown off the show. Burr demanded he come back and eventually he did.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:34 pm to ClusterCock
Perry Mason screen tests (1956)
Including William Hopper (Paul Drake) as Mason
And... Raymond Burr as Ham Burger?!?
(Tod Andrews as Perry)
And strangest of all, a scene with Burr as Mason, but Della Street is bizarrely played as a fur-clad floozy
Including William Hopper (Paul Drake) as Mason
And... Raymond Burr as Ham Burger?!?
(Tod Andrews as Perry)
And strangest of all, a scene with Burr as Mason, but Della Street is bizarrely played as a fur-clad floozy
Posted on 4/26/23 at 6:19 pm to HueyLongJr
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Apparently Raymond Burr was very loyal to the old radio actors he got his start with
I spent a month with a former child actor that said Raymond Burr was the only actor that he didn't enjoy working with, for Ironside. But he also allowed that Burr was in a lot of pain at that point and had to be in a wheelchair. It wasn't a choice for the show.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:09 pm to Tigris
one thing ive noticed , dont fake your own death on a perry mason episode , cause your gonna die
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:32 pm to ClusterCock
quote:I absolutely loved old Perry Mason. I really wish HBO would have greenlit S3 of the new Perry Mason. It was really finding it's space and could have been a great show.
appreciation for the "old" Perry Mason show
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:37 am to fool_on_the_hill
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one thing ive noticed , dont fake your own death on a perry mason episode , cause your gonna die
This reminds me of another one, don't become a romantic interest of a Cartwright son. If you do your arse is doomed
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