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Gaslit • Starz series • Watergate focusing on Martha Mitchell
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:58 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:58 am
Trailer on YouTube
Before we get to the usual rending of garments and gnashing of teeth over this ridiculing politicians, what hit me about the first episode was that it's a series done "in the style" of Adam McKay. We're now at the point where other directors will be doing Adam McKay films/series.
You don't have the breaking of the 4th wall (so far) or the lengthy informational interstitials, but the broad comedic takes on the characters are something right out of "Winning time: the rise of the Lakers dynasty". You could cross over these two series and not have to change a thing.
The series itself is entertaining (in a McKay way) but the characterization of Liddy and Mitchell as laughable buffoons is either too broad or not broad enough ("Dick" was full out parody and did it perfectly.)
Plenty of nudity in the first episode, as cable series do to lure you in for the remainder. Fantastic cast (Sean Penn, Julia Roberts, Betty Gilpin, Dan Stevens, Shea Whigham...) but a little wasted on this style of show.
Shea Whigham would've made a great G. Gordon in a serious biopic.
Before we get to the usual rending of garments and gnashing of teeth over this ridiculing politicians, what hit me about the first episode was that it's a series done "in the style" of Adam McKay. We're now at the point where other directors will be doing Adam McKay films/series.
You don't have the breaking of the 4th wall (so far) or the lengthy informational interstitials, but the broad comedic takes on the characters are something right out of "Winning time: the rise of the Lakers dynasty". You could cross over these two series and not have to change a thing.
The series itself is entertaining (in a McKay way) but the characterization of Liddy and Mitchell as laughable buffoons is either too broad or not broad enough ("Dick" was full out parody and did it perfectly.)
Plenty of nudity in the first episode, as cable series do to lure you in for the remainder. Fantastic cast (Sean Penn, Julia Roberts, Betty Gilpin, Dan Stevens, Shea Whigham...) but a little wasted on this style of show.
Shea Whigham would've made a great G. Gordon in a serious biopic.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:31 am to Fewer Kilometers
The worst thing about Watergate was it gave us Jimmy Carter's presidency.
ETA: I think most people would watch a true look at Watergate today and think, "wow, that's all they did?"
ETA: I think most people would watch a true look at Watergate today and think, "wow, that's all they did?"
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:33 am to Fewer Kilometers
kinda surprised we are just now getting a Martha Mitchell show/movie. Some pretty good talent behind this show
It is bizarre to think that just few years ago this would be a role Julie Roberts could win an oscer for. Now it is show buried on stars. I get the feeling that this full season of a show would have been better served as 2 hour movie, which is often the case now.
It is bizarre to think that just few years ago this would be a role Julie Roberts could win an oscer for. Now it is show buried on stars. I get the feeling that this full season of a show would have been better served as 2 hour movie, which is often the case now.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:46 am to imjustafatkid
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ETA: I think most people would watch a true look at Watergate today and think, "wow, that's all they did?"
As a kid born in 70 that grew up hearing the term over and over(and over), that was pretty much my reaction when I finally found out what Watergate was.
Where was the media when Obama was doing even worse?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:57 am to Fewer Kilometers
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it's a series done "in the style" of Adam McKay. We're now at the point where other directors will be doing Adam McKay films/series.
I would prefer this not become a trend. The Big Short faced the difficulty of presenting complicated financial issues to an unsophisticated audience and he used some restraint. Otherwise I feel like this is sort of a poetic license for absurdity. It's ok to lie and exaggerate if you're wearing a clown suit!
I guess all of the Watergate players are dead now unlike the showtime Lakers who have to watch their lives get sensationalized and misconstrued every week.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:25 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Gaslit
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Watergate
Ironic, given today's climate.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:40 am to AUFANATL
quote:Upvote for actually discussing the TV show.
I would prefer this not become a trend. The Big Short faced the difficulty of presenting complicated financial issues to an unsophisticated audience and he used some restraint. Otherwise I feel like this is sort of a poetic license for absurdity. It's ok to lie and exaggerate if you're wearing a clown suit!
I guess all of the Watergate players are dead now unlike the showtime Lakers who have to watch their lives get sensationalized and misconstrued every week.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:53 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I would love to watch this if it's based on unbiased historical facts but I have the feeling it will be Hollywood propaganda
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:50 am to Fewer Kilometers
Awesome! A production about Watergate! It’s about time Hollywood spoke truth to power and filled this void.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:02 am to The Ramp
quote:As I said above, it's in the same vein as the current Lakers series on HBO. If you can find a feature film or series that is 100% historically accurate, more power to you. They're as rare as hen's teeth.
I would love to watch this if it's based on unbiased historical facts but I have the feeling it will be Hollywood propaganda
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:02 am to BabysArmHoldingApple
quote:You really think that we're being inundated with Watergate features right now?
Awesome! A production about Watergate! It’s about time Hollywood spoke truth to power and filled this void.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:26 am to imjustafatkid
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I think most people would watch a true look at Watergate today and think, "wow, that's all they did?
Yep. For 50 years, the Left and the media have beat us over the head with how evil Nixon was and what a gross abuse of power Watergate was. Not one peep about the Clinton administration using the IRS and FBI to harass and intimidate political foes. Or how the Obama White House ramped up what Slick started to a massive scale. Not a peep.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:33 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Yep. For 50 years, the Left and the media have beat us over the head with how evil Nixon was and what a gross abuse of power Watergate was. Not one peep about the Clinton administration using the IRS and FBI to harass and intimidate political foes. Or how the Obama White House ramped up what Slick started to a massive scale. Not a peep.
Clinton was impeached. It was intensely covered by the media (from the left wing to the right wing to SNL and back). Don't pretend that Clinton got a free ride or that Nixon was undeservedly demonized by history.
Add to that the changing trends of the left that now has Clinton labeled as a rapist for his use of power to get women to sleep with him.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:34 am to Fewer Kilometers
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You really think that we're being inundated with Watergate features right now?
If not, Martha Mitchell seems like a hot topic. Netflix has a documentary coming out on her too. Not sure why anyone should give even give a shite about Martha Mitchell or Watergate in 2022 but here we are.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:38 am to Fewer Kilometers
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current Lakers series on HBO
Other than the names, that show is pure fictional but it is hilarious I recognize it for what it is. I enjoy it and they cast well even though the characters are far from accurate
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:09 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Clinton was impeached. It was intensely covered by the media (from the left wing to the right wing to SNL and back). Don't pretend that Clinton got a free ride or that Nixon was undeservedly demonized by history.
Clinton was impeached for perjury, not abuse of power. It was covered, with Clinton usually the victim of a witch hunt. The media has generally been favorable in their treatment of Clinton. Nixon, on the other hand, has had countless movies made about him and/or Watergate. Clinton has had a couple of PBS style pieces on his presidency and two movies made about the 92 campaign, both from a 'friendly' perspective. There's been little critical media or popular coverage at all, relatively speaking.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:15 am to Fewer Kilometers
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You really think that we're being inundated with Watergate features right now?
As another poster mentioned, it has been beaten to death for 50 years.
By contrast, when a scandal by the "home team" is addressed in a project it is nuanced and complex and the real villains are ultimately the vindictive opponents who exploit the scandal for political advantage (as opposed to Watergate, where the sole motive is truth, light, and saving democracy).
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:53 am to BabysArmHoldingApple
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By contrast, when a scandal by the "home team" is addressed in a project it is nuanced and complex and the real villains are ultimately the vindictive opponents who exploit the scandal for political advantage (as opposed to Watergate, where the sole motive is truth, light, and saving democracy).
The Lewinsky series from six months ago showed Clinton as lying scum. He was shown to be as much of a "villain" as Tripp and the prosecutors that Lewinsky claims "used" her.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 11:23 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Clinton was impeached
For lying to Congress. The Left and media were smart. They got everyone to focus on the salacious part of his activities (Monica, the women). Meanwhile, he's selling the White House to the Chinese and using dictatorial powers. He knew the lapdog press (and RINOs) would never call him on the carpet.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 4:37 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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The Lewinsky series from six months ago showed Clinton as lying scum. He was shown to be as much of a "villain" as Tripp and the prosecutors that Lewinsky claims "used" her.
That is a highly dramatized production that aired 25 years after most of the events occurred and long after Clinton's active political career ended. Contemporaneous depictions showed him as a victim of a witch hunt (its just consensual sex, right?) ... while Linda Tripp was excoriated for her appearance by the cool kids on SNL (fat John Goodman in a wig). It was junior high level ridicule.
But Woodward and Bernstein are avengers for truth. Journalists as non-partisan super heroes. There is nobody sympathetic on the other side...only evildoers.
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