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HI-YO-OO! Dean Martin Lit on Johnny Carson Show - Hilarious! (1975)
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:05 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:05 am
Legendary. Hilarious. Nobody ever did it better than Johnny Carson. His shows were a party. (still airing on TV and *still* funny.)
"Rat Packer," Dean Martin (who for several years had his own variety show) was always hilarious on Carson's show. Also appearing here is Bob Hope. (meanwhile, let's give Ed McMahon and his *laugh* props: IT was legendary)
NO laugh track necessary. NO "Applause!" sign. Everything is natural -- reactions, conversations, and "funny."
Back then the audiences were sharp and paid attention...laughing *only* when something is actually funny. And...they "got" inside jokes. (You younger guys here -- check it out and compare this short clip to what you've witnessed from "Late Night" in the last 10-20 years.)
So...Dean Martin, toting his patented one-handed cigarette & glass of "apple juice" as props...WAS he drunk? OR was this just his "act"? Doesn't matter. It's classic.
Dean Martin (Blitzed??) Johnny Carson Show, 1975, 6-minutes
"Rat Packer," Dean Martin (who for several years had his own variety show) was always hilarious on Carson's show. Also appearing here is Bob Hope. (meanwhile, let's give Ed McMahon and his *laugh* props: IT was legendary)
NO laugh track necessary. NO "Applause!" sign. Everything is natural -- reactions, conversations, and "funny."
Back then the audiences were sharp and paid attention...laughing *only* when something is actually funny. And...they "got" inside jokes. (You younger guys here -- check it out and compare this short clip to what you've witnessed from "Late Night" in the last 10-20 years.)
So...Dean Martin, toting his patented one-handed cigarette & glass of "apple juice" as props...WAS he drunk? OR was this just his "act"? Doesn't matter. It's classic.
Dean Martin (Blitzed??) Johnny Carson Show, 1975, 6-minutes
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:05 am to Liberator
FWIW, in *this* appearance I do think Martin *was* feeling good 
Screenshot from this show:
Screenshot from this show:
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:11 am to Liberator
In before, "He didn't really drink."
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:23 am to Fewer Kilometers
Didn’t he have bad arthritis and it was basically a sleight-of-hand ploy to always have a “drink” or cigarette in one hand or both so to draw attention away from that?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:42 am to Liberator
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Back then the audiences
Liberator,
Are you really doing nostalgia shopping on studio audiences?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:54 am to Liberator
The King of Cool
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:28 am to CovingtonTigre
CovingtonTigre,
"Nostalgia" (and studio audience reaction of a Johnny Carson Show specifically) is a great metric for comparing and contrasting time elements and how people have changed. (Are you younger or older? Did you watch the clip and audience reactions?)
I can't help but notice a stark contrast of the spontaneity of the audience reaction -- especially compared to any "reaction" of audience member on today's so called "Late Night" talk shows. What I notice -- few reactions are spontaneous these days -- probably because folks are afraid to "behave" with "unapproved emotion."
There are studio signs that instruct today's audiences on exactly how to react (Clap like seal NOW!! Whoop and Howl NOW!) And we know the Talk Shows these days all layer Laugh Tracks in post production as needed. (With Carson's Show, no post production "juicing" was necessary.)
"Nostalgia" (and studio audience reaction of a Johnny Carson Show specifically) is a great metric for comparing and contrasting time elements and how people have changed. (Are you younger or older? Did you watch the clip and audience reactions?)
I can't help but notice a stark contrast of the spontaneity of the audience reaction -- especially compared to any "reaction" of audience member on today's so called "Late Night" talk shows. What I notice -- few reactions are spontaneous these days -- probably because folks are afraid to "behave" with "unapproved emotion."
There are studio signs that instruct today's audiences on exactly how to react (Clap like seal NOW!! Whoop and Howl NOW!) And we know the Talk Shows these days all layer Laugh Tracks in post production as needed. (With Carson's Show, no post production "juicing" was necessary.)
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:29 am to ipodking
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The King of Cool
The cooliest.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:04 pm to Liberator
quote:
So...Dean Martin, toting his patented one-handed cigarette & glass of "apple juice" as props...WAS he drunk? OR was this just his "act"? Doesn't matter. It's classic.
I used to think it was an act but the wife(no pics) and I went to a Wayne Newton show at Vegas last year and during the show he asked "how many of you think Dean Martin's drinking was an act?". Several of us raised our hands and he said "no, he really liked to drink " Apparently it wasn't just for show
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:38 pm to CCT
Yea, he was not the booze hound people portrayed (himself included) to be.
He drank early in life but all but completely stopped in the early 70s.
Later in life he claimed that he couldn't stand to be around people that were excessive.
There's a hilarious story about him calling the police on his own house party from next door because he wanted to clear his house.
He drank early in life but all but completely stopped in the early 70s.
Later in life he claimed that he couldn't stand to be around people that were excessive.
There's a hilarious story about him calling the police on his own house party from next door because he wanted to clear his house.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:55 pm to Liberator
Bob Hope was such an approachable dude for being a giant star and just stupidly rich.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 3:05 pm to hogcard1964
One of life’s little oddities, but people who actually enjoy sipping don’t always enjoy being around sloppy drunks.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 3:24 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:He wasn't a drunk -- at first.
In before, "He didn't really drink."
After he split from Jerry Lewis he/his handlers decided he needed a new stage persona, so they simply stole the drunk bit from standup comic Joe E. Lewis (no relation to Jerry), who was played by Frank Sinatra in the movie The Joker Is Wild.
Joe E. Lewis
Posted on 2/23/23 at 4:25 pm to Ace Midnight
Little known fact: Johnny hated Bob Hope and how he was given carte blanche by NBC to drop in on the Tonight Show at any time.
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:11 pm to Liberator
My favorite Dean Martin appearance is when he kept ashing in George Gobel’s drink.
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:01 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Johnny hated Bob Hope and how he was given carte blanche by NBC to drop in on the Tonight Show at any time.
I think it would be an interesting topic for a documentary. Carson was basically Hope just shifted 1 generation later (22 years age difference). Their Midwestern upbringing, general personality, comedy act and comedic instincts were extremely similar. The studio in Burbank was built for Hope in 1950 (when he was 47) was taken over by Johnny for TTSSJC in 1972 (when he was 47).
They were the 2 biggest stars for NBC for the 60s and 70s and it wasn't even close. The rivalry from Johnny's side was mainly due to his being younger and having to be more deferential. The joke is, while Carson certainly admired and looked up to Groucho, Benny and Burns, he didn't really "admire" Hope because he was just the younger version of Hope.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:21 am to FredBear
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I went to a Wayne Newton show at Vegas last year and during the show he asked "how many of you think Dean Martin's drinking was an act?". Several of us raised our hands and he said "no, he really liked to drink " Apparently it wasn't just for show
So Wayne Newton spilled the beans?
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:30 am to WestSideTiger
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My favorite Dean Martin appearance is when he kept ashing in George Gobel’s drink.
(Had that vid queued up as well.)
Nice time stamps...
Another of the all-time TV show/Carson classics. Planned or spontaneous gag? Audience didn't care either way. Great stuff. Johnny was in on it, keeping Gobel engaged. )
Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:38 am to Ace Midnight
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I think it would be an interesting topic for a documentary.
Carson was basically Hope just shifted 1 generation later (22 years age difference)...
The rivalry from Johnny's side was mainly due to his being younger and having to be more deferential.
The joke is, while Carson certainly admired and looked up to Groucho, Benny and Burns, he didn't really "admire" Hope because he was just the younger version of Hope.
Now that you mention it and back-filled some dynamics for the "rivalry" (and animus from Carson), I agree -- potential rich, un-tapped documentary subject. Hope was the King and Carson his heir.
It was also said Carson hated Hope's carte blanche walk-ons and scripted jokes in later years (not spontaneous enough for Carson) -- as well as Hope's bad hearing problems.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:39 am to Liberator
Carson resented Hope's pop-ins later in Hope's career, but the first 15 or so years of The Tonight Show, Hope and Carson got along fine. Toward the end, Carson felt Hope should hang it up and not act as if he were the bigger star by just showing up.
(From "Johnny Carson" by Henry Bushkin, Carson's former financial advisor)
(From "Johnny Carson" by Henry Bushkin, Carson's former financial advisor)
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