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re: Is Ultron in MCU the most disappointing villain ever?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:26 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:26 pm to OMLandshark
how do you even come up with your rape & gore fantasies for mainstream movies/tv?
The MCU isn't giving you A Serbian Film.
ETA: agree w/ duzz, the problem was botching his creation. There was no build-up to the power he instantly acquired. Since they had the rights to Hank Pym, they could've made him an earlier creation of Pym's that got out of control and evolved in secret before seeking to wreak havoc.
The MCU isn't giving you A Serbian Film.
ETA: agree w/ duzz, the problem was botching his creation. There was no build-up to the power he instantly acquired. Since they had the rights to Hank Pym, they could've made him an earlier creation of Pym's that got out of control and evolved in secret before seeking to wreak havoc.
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:29 pm to PowerTool
Ultron could’ve killed a bunch of people without the movie showing gore. Thanos wiped out half of everyone and did it in a tasteful way.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:30 pm to OMLandshark
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You’ve gone on this rant a million times, made this thread a million times
Whoa.
OMLandshark actually personifies Walter Sobchak. Mind blown.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:30 pm to Proximo
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Over the top violence? They flew through some skyscraper floors, so what
Yeah I never understood this complaint either.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:05 am to OMLandshark
Thought Ultron was great.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:56 am to John McClane
Ultron should have had a multi-movie arch in the same way that Thanos was. You could have done Age of Ultron, ended it the exact same way, but find out after the blip that he had uploaded his consciousness and was biding his time. In a digital age, Ultron could always come back.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:02 am to saints5021
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Ultron should have had a multi-movie arch in the same way that Thanos was. You could have done Age of Ultron, ended it the exact same way, but find out after the blip that he had uploaded his consciousness and was biding his time. In a digital age, Ultron could always come back.
They probably used him too early (before they really had cohesiveness. I mean shite Whedon directed this movie and look how wrong we were about him compared to the Russos arc), but they had to use a big bad for the Sokovia Accords, which led the drama in the final phase of the Infinity Saga until IW.
If it wasn't Ultron, it would have been a bad on that level.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:04 am to kingbob
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Mandarin from Iron Man 3
The twist with the Mandarin was the only thing worth a shite about Iron Man 3. They should have had Hail To the King (where the Mandarin is real, and kills the actor) as the end credits scene, and then used the real one in another movie.
Instead, well, it was a waste of a character. We have phase 4 which gargles Donkey dick, with a ton of Canon and characters that are wasted.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:07 am to kingbob
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Mandarin from Iron Man 3
To be fair, we eventually did get the real Mandarin in Shang-Chi and Tony Leung had a great performance.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:15 pm to Starchild
quote:If Shang-Chi had followed Iron Man 3 a lot closer in time, and you somehow kept Mandarin alive at the end, that would have been a great set-up.quote:
Mandarin from Iron Man 3
To be fair, we eventually did get the real Mandarin in Shang-Chi and Tony Leung had a great performance.
Or maybe, have a movie in between, with Tony vs Mandarin, and then have Shang Chi
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:19 pm to OMLandshark
After doing a total rewatch last year, Ultron was a better movie and character than first impression. That movie sets so many future story arcs in motion.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:22 pm to OMLandshark
Nah. Spader grave some gravitas to a mediocre plot.
Yellowjacket is my vote as most disappointing and least nuanced villain. Nothing against Stahl but he’s the least memorable by a mile.
Yellowjacket is my vote as most disappointing and least nuanced villain. Nothing against Stahl but he’s the least memorable by a mile.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:24 pm to biglego
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Over the top violence? They flew through some skyscraper floors, so what
Yeah I never understood this complaint either.
It's definitely one of the funniest complaints I've ever seen about a film. It's about powerful aliens arriving and causing some destruction...OMG THE HORROR!!
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:25 pm to 3nOut
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Yellowjacket is my vote as most disappointing and least nuanced villain. Nothing against Stahl but he’s the least memorable by a mile.
No one knows who Yellowjacket is. Yeah, Ultron was perfectly cast, which makes it all the more disappointing how much they fricked him up. None of that is on Spader.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 7:29 pm to OMLandshark
I’ll argue that maybe 10% of the population knew who Ultron was over Yellowjacket.
Evil businessman taking over tech and using it for evil from the genius/hero was already used in Iron Man.
Stahl is no Bridges though and Yellowjacket’s damage was limited to a suburban San Francisco home.
I’ll stick to my argument that Yellowjacket was more disappointing.
Evil businessman taking over tech and using it for evil from the genius/hero was already used in Iron Man.
Stahl is no Bridges though and Yellowjacket’s damage was limited to a suburban San Francisco home.
I’ll stick to my argument that Yellowjacket was more disappointing.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:22 pm to 3nOut
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I’ll argue that maybe 10% of the population knew who Ultron was over Yellowjacket.
I mean, for people who read the comics, Ultron is absolutely notorious. I do think he’s truly the most evil comic book character of all time. He just has the works going for him: genocidal, sexual pervert, inferiority complex, superiority complex, identity complex, manipulative, vicious, Machiavellian, and it’s believable in his character. Yellowjacket would not be in the Top 100 comic book villains. Ultron is almost indisputably in the Top 10. He’s just terrifying and a feral animal when he thinks he’s the height of logic.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:49 pm to OMLandshark
BadAss in the What If series on Disney+.
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