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It Chapter II. How did they mess this up so much?

Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10680 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:35 pm
Didn't care about the characters or their fake relationships, took to long to get to the confrontation, and then that was a big let down too. The first one was't great but light years ahead of this steaming pile.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13369 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:40 pm to
The kids' part of the novel was much better than the adults' as well. And the journey is almost always better than the ending in a King story.
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:46 pm to
So unintentionally campy. The only time it worked was when they embraced it and went comedic ("Angel of the Morning" scene comes to mind ).
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 2:56 pm to
Cgi and weak script
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51708 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

How did they mess this up so much?


It's actually quite common with sequels
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10808 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:02 pm to
I saw the reunion dinner scene the other night before I changed channels and it was so cringey watching them pretend to be old friends
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119475 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:45 pm to
I just watched this the other day, I had no idea it was that bad of a movie.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:57 pm to
The adult part of the story has always been way less compelling.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
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20449 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8249 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:40 pm to
It was bad, and virtue signaling by making Ritchie gay was awful.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27018 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

and virtue signaling by making Ritchie gay was awful.




I took it as the "make up" for leaving out the hate crime/murder of the gay guy in the 1958 portion of the book. Two gay guys in 1958 go out to the fair and are gay bashed and thrown over a bridge. The one guy is killed by It and the way the murder was handled was probably very accurate for 1958 but would have caused boycotts in todays movie audience.
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5606 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 6:09 pm to
If Fukunaga had written and directed both parts 1 and 2, it would have been much, much better.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29163 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 6:57 pm to
First was good. Second one wasn't. Extremely disappointed in it.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4583 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:35 am to
That was in the movie.
Posted by Masked Debator
Member since May 2020
104 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:08 am to
Not sure, ending was a disappointment though, I enjoyed it up until after the conversation between Beverly and Mrs Kersch. That creeped me.
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6109 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:40 am to
The movie was not bad

Just saying your a clown over n over to kill him that was fricking lame and a let down

Still solid movie

Good cast a ton of good IT scenes I do wish they spent at least 5 min more lol explaining the indian tribe and his origin
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 3:45 am
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12024 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:07 pm to
I personally couldn't even stand the first movie.

It was extremely disjointed and felt like a 2 hour collection of jump scare scenes.

The CGI when pennywise ate off Georgie's arm was atrocious.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10445 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:34 pm to
I thought Chapter 2 was ok, but nowhere near the quality of the first.

The two major errors for me were, first, underutilizing Pennywise in favor of CGI monsters. The scenes Pennywise was in, like the little girl under the bleachers, were some of the most genuinely scary.

Second, they needed to edit length badly. The middle section with the quests was repetitive and dragged. The old lady was creepy, but the rest were lacking.

The ending was weak, but that's the book. That's another area where editing would have helped a lot. It just dragged on without adding things.

They also could have completely cut the Henry subplot for time because it didn't change anything.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5310 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I saw the reunion dinner scene the other night before I changed channels and it was so cringey watching them pretend to be old friends


I assumed that the reunion dinner was supposed to be cringe. Essentially, they were all pretending because none of them really had much memory of their childhood there. I think that contributed to the awkwardness.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27018 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:42 am to
quote:

That was in the movie.




But it was changed significantly. Neither were killed by Pennywise.

I need to rewatch Chapter one.
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