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re: Late Night With The Devil

Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:18 pm to
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How was it?

It was OK. Good concept and executed well for stretches, but I don't think it landed the ending.

If you're going to get a Shudder free week, there are definitely better movies to watch...When Evil Lurks, Speak No Evil, The Medium, etc.

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Also, I’ve seen you mention Demons multiple times. Explain that one further for me. I googled it the other day and got multiple results.

First, it's Italian horror from the 70s or 80s (I forget if Argento or Bava directed it, but I'm pretty sure the other one produced it). This means something (I'll get into it later).

Summary is a movie is played that stars infecting the audience and they turn into demons and hunt the rest of the theater down.

So, being Italian from that era, it doesn't fully make sense, it has a lot of color (I wouldn't call this Giallo but ti borrows the style), isn't totally serious, will have a synth/metal soundtrack, and has LOTS of gore and set pieces to do mega gore. ETA: and it's terribly dubbed (They would actually shoot movies with each actor acting in his/her native language and dub everyone in post).

When I was growing up it was on my list from my Hound's Guide to Horror, but it was impossible to find. Finally about 10 years ago with streaming I bought it on Prime. I don't think I have watched it again but I'm not upset to own it.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 8:20 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:09 am to
Okay I just bit the bullet and signed up for Shudder last night so I could watch this.
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It was OK. Good concept and executed well for stretches, but I don't think it landed the ending.

This is about where I am on it. It was a very cool premise, and some of it was executed pretty well. But yeah the ending borderline sucked arse and got a little too jumbled for my liking. And I'm not sure there's ever been a more foreshadowed thing in movies than when Jack sets the dagger down on the little table between him and Lilly.

That being said, I did kinda like it though. And I thought the concept of it and the way it was shot was really cool. Definitely would recommend it to fans of the genre, but I'd caution to go in with a fairly low bar.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:37 am to
This would have been perfect for a V/H/S segment, and it wouldn't shock me if the original concept was for an anthology.

20-30 minutes of just a struggling late night show bringing on a demon. Strip away the conspiracy and dead wife and focus more on the success/fame more intensely.

OR

Go 120 minutes and actually explore the backstory they forced in, as well as characters like Gus (who turned real Christian randomly), and play it straight horror without the 2001 ending. Could have been the next Hereditary.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:11 am to
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This would have been perfect for a V/H/S segment, and it wouldn't shock me if the original concept was for an anthology.

20-30 minutes of just a struggling late night show bringing on a demon. Strip away the conspiracy and dead wife and focus more on the success/fame more intensely.

Agree with that. There was a lot of it that just felt slow and unnecessary. And it was acted like a VHS/anthology as well (i.e. acted fairly poorly), although that is part of the appeal and makes it seem more "real" as a legit 70s late night show clip.

Also, the whole "Grove" angle with the gatherings of celebrities in the woods performing rituals just felt sort of overly forced and out of place, and dind't really jive with anything.
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:45 am to
Finally got around to watching this weekend. I have to say, I was not all that impressed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422767 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:13 am to
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Also, the whole "Grove" angle with the gatherings of celebrities in the woods performing rituals just felt sort of overly forced and out of place, and dind't really jive with anything.

It was forced with no real explanation and was a driving force in the shitty voiceover to start the movie.

Keeping it "straight" with him just being the captain of a sinking ship, grieving over loss and changing himself to stay in the limelight, is a much better angle, to me. Flipping it into a forced "you sold your soul" angle, was silly. It could have been fleshed out and not made so forced, but they went for 90 minutes instead.

I am a sucker for found footage and occult demonology, but this movie tried to force it all in, wrapped around a nostalgic bow.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:14 am to
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Also, the whole "Grove" angle with the gatherings of celebrities in the woods performing rituals just felt sort of overly forced and out of place, and dind't really jive with anything.

That was the whole point. He made a deal with the devil.
It makes no sense without that.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150771 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:29 am to
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That was the whole point. He made a deal with the devil.
It makes no sense without that.

I know what the point was, and I know what it meant within the movie.

I'm saying it was forced and unnecessary and sort of stupid, honestly.

They could've easily done a movie where Jack wasn't involved with some weird outside shite and some demon shite went sideways on his late night show, as SFP mentioned. Jack indirectly sacrificing his wife for late night success wasn't necessary at all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:31 am to
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That was the whole point. He made a deal with the devil.
It makes no sense without that.

It actually makes less sense with that randomly interjected in the end.
Posted by muttenstein
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:47 am to
Loved it! Thanks to all who recommended this! Really well done, and that little girl was creepy AF.
Posted by The Ramp
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:55 am to
So the deal with the devil was his wife for success? I missed that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:43 am to
It was in that 2001-esque, rushed, psychological epilogue of sorts. They jammed a lot of stuff in there.

This movie is not a fan of "show and don't tell"
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