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re: On this day in 1967, 78 million people tuned in to watch the finale of The Fugitive

Posted on 10/9/22 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 7:56 pm to
I love that this thread about the tGOAT TV show keeps getting bumped

I also love that almost all the replies are about ratings and TV channels available in 1967 instead of the damn show

Posted by Aeolian Vocalion
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:14 pm to
My favorite episode is probably "Nightmare at North Oak," which is about as beautifully concocted a suspense piece as can be made. 1960s episodic television at its best.

Also often appreciated episodes like "Come Watch Me Die," which had Kimball unwittingly deputized into a posse of locals to help capture and transport a youthful man accused of a killing. Amidst the rowdy captors, and seeing his own innocent self a bit in the desperate prisoner, Kimble falters in his judgment and has to rectify things. I liked the way the writers didn't take the easy and common (back then) trope of making the young prisoner innocent. "The Fugitive" was good about avoiding such predictable takes. Ditto for "Naked City," another great 1960s series.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:31 pm to
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My favorite episode is probably "Nightmare at North Oak," which is about as beautifully concocted a suspense piece as can be made. 1960s episodic television at its best.
It's a classic, very highly regarded among fans, but it's not really a typical episode. It feels more like a 1940s film noir second feature. I think it's also the only episode w/a dream sequence

That dream sequence is where the iconic shot of shot of Janssen running in the alley comes from





Shots from the dream sequence:







"NANO" also has one of the greatest exchanges of the entire series:

Dr. Richard Kimble: [in his cell, talking through the bars to Girard] You make yourself believe that being a fugitive has done something to my mind. You're forgetting that my story's exactly the same now as it was the night of the murder.

Lt. Philip Girard: And it was and is a lie.

Dr. Richard Kimble: [angrily] Are you so godlike that because you couldn't find a one-armed man you don't believe he exists?

Lt. Philip Girard: I've done everything humanly possible to find him!

Dr. Richard Kimble: [studies Girard for a moment] I think you have. I wonder why.

Lt. Philip Girard: It's my job.

Dr. Richard Kimble: It's also a curse, isn't it, Girard? You know, I think you have nightmares too. Your nightmare is that when I'm dead you'll find him.

[Girard's jaw tightens slightly, then he turns to leave]

Dr. Richard Kimble: What are YOU running from, Girard?





Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:54 pm to
For those who'd like a younger perspective on The Fugitive, HERE is a video review of the entire series by a twentysomething chick, sort of the book nerd type.



She enjoys the show immensely and considers it a classic -- she seems kind of surprised she liked it so much -- but stops short of calling it tGOAT. Girl, I am disappoint.
Posted by sqerty
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 6:26 pm to
I watched it bout 3 weeks ago. It's a two-parter. It was good. I won't spoil it, but Harrison Ford doesn't show up for a cameo
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:44 pm to
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I also love that almost all the replies are about ratings and TV channels available in 1967 instead of the damn show



This thread got me curious to see how many stations Houston had in 1967. It was 5.
KPRC (NBC)
KHOU (CBS)
KTRK (ABC)
KUHT (University of Houston/PBS)
KHTV (Channel 39, independent UHF)

All are still in business today; channel 39 is the only one that's changed network affiliations. Carries the CW today.
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:02 pm to
I have some Houston (Southeast Texas) "TV Guide" magazines from 1967, along with many other years. Always fascinating to peruse the listings. Even with so few channels, I observe how there was so much programming I would have been happy with. Nowadays, I receive over a hundred channels, and almost never find anything I can stand to watch. It's all a bunch of vomitous, degenerate crap... made by cretinous minds, for cretinous minds.

Thank goodness for dvd's, and the ability to amass a good library of material to watch, including all 4 seasons of "The Fugitive."
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:03 pm to
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All are still in business today; channel 39 is the only one that's changed network affiliations. Carries the CW today.


There used to be a lot more independent stations around the country. Then Fox came around 87 and WB and UPN (which both later merged to form CW) came around in 95 and by then, I don’t think there were many independent stations left.

Edit: Actually, for a while after it launched, most of the formerly independent Fox affiliates still ran as semi-independent entities because Fox only ran content on a few days of the week. The rest of the affiliates’ programming schedule was first-run syndication stuff until Fox became a full 7-day-a-week network.
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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:30 pm to


"Come Watch Me Die"

Directed by Laslo Benedek
Written by Stanford Whitmore, from a story by Perry Bleecker

S1 E17
January 21, 1964

While toiling as a farm worker in rural Nebraska, Kimble is taken by the police -- no, he isn't recaptured: he's deputized to join a posse protecting an accused murderer from a lynch mob. The accused man protests his innocence -- the same way Kimble has. Should Kimble risk his life to help him? As others have done to help Kimble...?



Kimble is placed in yet another fascinatingly ironic quandary. Is the accused murderer Kimble's doppelganger? Or is he the anti-Kimble?















Posted by LaLadyinTx
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:45 pm to
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I had no idea this show had this big a following. 78 million people is a massive number for 1967.


It might have been bigger than "Who shot JR." After reading, I see that Dallas had more viewers...but they wouldn't on a market share basis, I'm sure.

I was a little kid and I remember hearing people talk about this show...when I was 6-7 years old. I didn't know anything about it, but they talked enough that I remember.
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Posted by LaLadyinTx
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:53 pm to
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—Ha! You must be really young.
In ‘67, there were 3 networks. Most mid-markets, like Baton Rouge with 150k in the region, had 2 channels: NBC and CBS and they split The popular ABC shows between them.



Yep...Shreveport had 3. They had ABC 3, CBS 12, and NBC 6. But NBC was located way north of Shreveport and their signal must have gotten directly some direction that didn't go very far south. We were about 50 miles south east and had lots of static.

So even if you got all 3 channels, chances were really good that they didn't all come in very well unless you lived in a really big city. In the country, you were moving around your outside antenna if you had one or constantly moving your rabbit ears.

My mom, aunts, etc. all watched CBS soaps because they had the best signal.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:22 pm to
I remember one episode where Kimball wound up becoming a cut man for a boxer. When reporters came around looking for stories about the up-and-coming contender, the Fugitive, fearing publicity, had to move on.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:36 pm to
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I remember one episode where Kimball wound up becoming a cut man for a boxer. When reporters came around looking for stories about the up-and-coming contender, the Fugitive, fearing publicity, had to move on.


I like the remake series from the late 70s/early 80s


Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 10:22 pm to
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Film nor fans should give The Fugitive a try. There has never been another TV series quite like it.

Thanks for posting some shots,I’m a film noir fan and these look nice. I’d like to watch a few, easiest way?
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:54 am to
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And how many channels were available back then? 4?
IF you lived in a city.

We were rural, and were were close enough to one “city” to get reception of the two networks with an affiliate there. If the weather was JUST right and you set the antenna PERFECTLY, you could sometimes watch the third network from a more-distant city, but there was a lot of snow on the screen.

Things like PBS generally broadcast with much less power, so you did not get them “in the country” even if you lived only half an hour away.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:54 am to
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It might have been bigger than "Who shot JR." After reading, I see that Dallas had more viewers...but they wouldn't on a market share basis, I'm sure.
and by that time, pretty much everyone in the country had access to all the major networks, too.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:09 pm to
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Film nor fans should give The Fugitive a try. There has never been another TV series quite like it.
Thanks for posting some shots, I’m a film noir fan and these look nice. I’d like to watch a few, easiest way?
This playlist has a few episodes.

Must-watches on that list:

"See Hollywood and Die"

"Search In A Windy City"

"Come Watch Me Die"

"Flight From The Final Demon" - as in "Come Watch Me Die", Our Hero is forced to confront a man who may be an anti-Kimble.

"Home Is The Hunted" -- Kimble returns to his hometown and reunites with his family.

There is another YT playlist but the uploaded prints are butchered. I haven't checked DailyMotion or other sites recently.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:36 pm to
such a great show. Back in the early 90s, my dad (a teacher) and I would watch it every day on TV Land or something. Every night at like 5:35 they would air an episode and then the same episode would come on again the next morning at 11:35. I ended up watching all of the episodes many many times.

Back when The Fugitive movie came out, I think TV Land aired a special that was basically the first episode and the last episode (both parts) combined into one long "movie".

Great memories.

I don't think I've ever been as pumped for a new show as I was when a modern version of the show started up with Mykelti Williamson as Gerard and Tim Daly as Kimble. I think Stephen Lang was the one armed man. It only lasted one season and ended on a tremendous cliffhanger that irritates me to this day.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:31 pm to
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