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Revisiting Night Court (The Original)

Posted on 11/5/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 10:20 am
My wife and I like to pick an older sitcom every once in a while and rewatch it, those shows we watched when we were kids. Sometimes the humor ages well, sometimes the jokes are to "period specific" to work. Like a joke about someone predicting a "Mondale Landslide Victory" is going to be a hard one to land even if you were around for the actual election back in 1984.

Night Court is one of those that, while admittedly does have pop culture references peppered in that will not land today obviously, was still a wonderful show and still is fun to watch even today. It made me think about how some people remember certain aspects of the show, and how some things change.

First, the cast. The first season featured only three that would remain throughout the full run of the show:

Harry Anderson as the Judge, Harold T. Stone
John Larroquette as the Assistant D.A, Dan Fielding
Ricard Moll as one of the Bailiffs, Nostradamus 'Bull' Shannon

While others are remembered fondly as part of the show, the other characters that were there until the end did not join until later seasons:

Charles Robinson as the Clerk, Mac Robinson (Season 2)
Markie Post as the Public Defender, Christine Sullivan (Season 3*)
Marsha Warfield as the other Bailiff, Rosalind "Roz" Russel (Season 4)

Of the final cast, only two of those cast members are still alive today - John Larroquette and Marsha Warfield.

The first season had a cast that most would likely not recognize today. The court clerk was played by Karen Austin (probably best known for playing John Candy's wife in Summer Rental), and was the first initially intended to be Harry's love interest and a love foil for both him and Dan. According to at least one article on why she was not retained for the show:

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However, Austin was diagnosed with Bell’s palsy, and according to the producers of the series, it was affecting her performance.


The other cast member only present for Season 1 was the Public Defender, played by Paula Kelly. No specific reason was given for Kelly's departure, but some think it was because the show lead (Reinhold Weege) always wanted Markie Post (who did appear as her character in E1 of S2 in a guest appearance) but had to wait for her contract with "The Fall Guy" to finish before bringing her in. Others think it might be because they switched over the love interest from being in the position of Court Clerk to Public Defender (allowing Charles Robinson to take the role of Clerk), which one can see in some storylines in S2.

At the end of the day, one can see the evolution of the show as the cast became more set. The reason for the bailiff positions change is, as most know even today, that the bailiff for seasons 1 and 2 (Selma Diamond) and season 3 (Florence Halop), both of which died from lung cancer. This is probably why the series chose to move away from the older, smaller female bailiff (who, admittedly, made for a great contrast to the youthful, optimistic, and massively tall Bull) and hired Marsha Warfield in S4.


One interesting thing of note: The show had no issue with showing the various female defendants in tantalizing outfits, the female leads were almost always dressed very modestly (Christine Sullivan almost always has one something that even hides her neck, at least through S3). Despite this Christine Sullivan (Markie Post) was still seen very much as a sex symbol of late night.


All of this is just to say - the show is still fun to watch. Dan is still the loveable sleaze, Harry to goofy cornball, Christine the heart-on-her-sleeve helper, Bull and Flo/Selma with their commentary from the side, and Mac's role as "straight man" in a whirlwind of absurdity and chaos. Even the side characters (Art the janitor/handyman, Quon Le - Mac's Wife that he didn't expect, and Phil Sanders the bum, are all great additions).

I will say that I am very grateful they got rid of the semi-recurring character of the sleazy reporter.

Trivia note:

The two actors/actresses that appeared in the most episodes after Marsha Warfield were Dorothy Andrews, who played the cashier and appeared in 106 episodes, and Charlotte Portney who played the older court stenographer and appeared in 60 episodes.

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I am going to guess that Charlotte was actually a trained stenographer, as her acting credits include the following shows ALSO as a court stenographer:

Matlock
LA Law
Falcon Crest
Jagged Edge
Dynasty
Hunter
Quincy M.E.
Lipstick
Police Story




As for Courtney Andrews, her only other acting credit was a bit role in the Incredible Shrinking Woman
Batman (1960s series)
Posted by S
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 10:24 am to
Pretty iconic intro as well

Posted by smash williams
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 11:21 am to
It’s on Freevee for anyone looking to stream it.
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 10:17 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:19 pm to
One thing my wife and I did find as well is how often a guest star will appear and we'll remark how they've been in everything - and more often than not, I'm fairly sure these appearances were either before they showed up in other things, or just as they were starting to - but others well after they were famous.

This happens a LOT.

John Astin (the original Gomez Adams)
Michael Richards (well before Seinfield)
James Cromwell (well before Babe and Star Trek: First Contact)
Lou Ferrigno (after the Hulk series)
Fran Drescher
Brent Spiner (well before he was known as Data)
Pam Grier
Michael J Fox (right before he got into the movie scene, about 2 years into Family Ties)
Yakov Smirnoff
Mel Torme
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 12:55 pm to
Our dream co-worker in middle school:



Actual co-worker IRL:

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 3:50 pm to
Mid-80s NBC Thursday night TV lineup....their golden age.

Cosby Show
Family Ties
Cheers
Night Court
Hill Street Blues

Then Letterman....

8pm -12 pm
Posted by parrotdr
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 4:01 pm to
What about Ellen Foley as Billie Young (Public Defender) in Season 2?

She's also the vocalist on the studio recording of Meatloaf's "Paradise by the Dashboard Light".

This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 4:32 pm
Posted by LSUMJ
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 4:11 pm to
I will always argue at its peak it was the funniest 80s comedy.

Then they killed off the hobo Phil, brought him back as his rich twin and Dan went soft
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 4:43 pm to
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What about Ellen Foley as Billie Young (Public Defender) in Season 2?

She's also the vocalist on the studio recording of Meatloaf's "Paradise by the Dashboard Light".


I didn't mean to leave her off; I just realized how long the post was getting.

She, too, was looking to be setup as a potential love interest/foil to Harry, probably just in case Post wasn't available by S3.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Then they killed off the hobo Phil
Was that the ultra-pathetic dude (family?) that shite seemed to happen to, and the court would have to listen to about?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 4:45 pm to
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Then they killed off the hobo Phil, brought him back as his rich twin and Dan went soft


It wasn't quite as good when Reinhold Weege left the show. John L. even asked to be removed from an Emmy nomination when he felt the show had lost some of it's wit after Reinhold's departure.
Posted by LSUMJ
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 5:19 pm to
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Was that the ultra-pathetic dude (family?) that shite seemed to happen to, and the court would have to listen to about?


No that was the Wheeler family, with Data from Star Trek
Posted by ChestRockwell
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:37 pm to
NC was a very underrated sit com. One of the best episodes was when Dan's boss (the midget), introduced his neice (Terry Hatcher) to him from Indiana. She was addicted to sex just like Dan. It also had the Red Ranger character.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:56 am to
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All of this is just to say - the show is still fun to watch.

I catch it here and there in syndication and it holds up pretty well. Great, great show.

And may be the GOAT intro song.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 8:45 am to
quote:

And may be the GOAT intro song.


When I was in jazz band in high school, we did a "TV melody" that included Night Court, Cheers, Sesame Street, etc. - all in jazzed up versions.

Needless to say, Night Court's wasn't really all that different.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:41 pm to
That lineup was legit must-see TV
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I will always argue at its peak it was the funniest 80s comedy.


It was the third best comedy on NBC's Thursday night lineup as noted above. It was also not as good as Newhart.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 2:58 pm to
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It was the third best comedy on NBC's Thursday night lineup as noted above. It was also not as good as Newhart.


I think it depends on your sense of humor.

Some people don't find Conan funny at all; others think he's the funniest person to ever host late night. Neither person is "wrong".
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