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re: Star Wars Viewing Figures Show Disturbing Lack of Faith in Sequel Trilogy
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:25 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:25 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
Re the sequels:
No, The Force Awakens wasn't any good either. People just give it slack because it was the first new one in a long time, and the next two were bad also. That entire convoluted storyline was terrible and needs to be deleted.
I think the best of the new (Disney) stuff blends in the OT and prequels. Mando when Ahsoka showed up, when Luke appears.
Maul, with the appearance of Vader at the end.
No, The Force Awakens wasn't any good either. People just give it slack because it was the first new one in a long time, and the next two were bad also. That entire convoluted storyline was terrible and needs to be deleted.
I think the best of the new (Disney) stuff blends in the OT and prequels. Mando when Ahsoka showed up, when Luke appears.
Maul, with the appearance of Vader at the end.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:30 pm to 1999
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the prequels.
The modern movies being so bad don’t make these duds any good.
Remember: Nooooooooo!
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:32 pm to weagle1999
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Remember: Nooooooooo!
That movie is in the top 3 Star Wars movies. I think it's better than Rogue one myself.
One terrible line delivery doesn't negate an entire 2 1/2 hour movie. Besides that line, what else do you think makes it a bad movie?
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:41 pm to magildachunks
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One terrible line delivery doesn't negate an entire 2 1/2 hour movie. Besides that line, what else do you think makes it a bad movie?
no
nOoOoO
YOU WILL DIIIIEEEEE
plus every conversation between Padme and Anakin
But it is the best of the prequels by a mile
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:10 pm to JasonDBlaha
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The prequels will always hold a dear place in my heart
The sequels are so reviled that they've made people believe the prequels weren't all that bad lol
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:30 pm to Purple Spoon
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a few years from now when they come home from college for thanksgiving, We are going to watch Capt. America and Iron Man and The Avengers after dinner.
Honestly, the very early MCU films that came out from 2008-2014 were actually pretty damn good. I say that as someone who has never really liked the MCU films and always thought that they went way over the top with a lot of things.
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 3:27 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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Star Wars Viewing Figures Show Disturbing Lack of Faith in Sequel Trilogy
I think The Last Jedi is the worst job of filmmaking in the history of film. All people wanted to see from it was peak Luke Skywalker kicking arse and sharing Force wisdom. Nothing else really mattered. Just get that part right. But they got it about as wrong as they could. Couldn’t have hardly got it worse if they tried - and shite, maybe they did.
And if that weren’t enough, killing off Snoke gave the last film nowhere to go. It never had a chance. And they end up bringing back Sidious, who should have been dead at least twice over in ROTJ. The ability to survive that just makes things like lightsaber duels seem silly. Sidious surviving also undermines the purpose of Anakin as the Chosen One.
I could have taken Mark Hamill, a long stick spray painted green, and my iPhone camera and made a film that would have been better received by fans.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:47 am to magildachunks
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It's evidence of Generation patterns.
Genx and elder millennials grew up watching the original trilogy, so we consider those to be a part of our childhood, whereas younger millennials and genz were young kids when the prequels came out, so they consider that to be the Star Wars of their childhood.
Phantom Menace is also chronologically first so it gets a natural bump. It’s also probably the most kid friendly.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:53 am to Proximo
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I’m not saying the prequels in general are bad, AOTC and ROTS are great.
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AOTC and ROTS are great.
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AOTC
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great
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:57 am to Scoob
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, The Force Awakens wasn't any good either. People just give it slack because it was the first new one in a long time, and the next two were bad also. That entire convoluted storyline was terrible and needs to be deleted.
Agreed. This was the only sequel, or any Disney property, really, that I watched. It's a dogshit movie. There's no point. No plot. It's the same story as A New Hope, but with less interesting characters. I checked out of Star Wars after The Force Awakens. I loathe that movie.
The thing is, there could have been an interesting story with Rey/Ren. The rebels are trying to figure out that governance is a shite load harder than rebellion. Lots of infighting and factions and smugglers and essentially the Wild West with the death of the Empire.
Rey doesn't know what she's doing, and thus becomes seduced by the darkside, because she has no serious tutor. She goes full Sith because she doesn't have assistance. Ren goes the opposite, as he encounters more of his family history and lore, and connects with Anakin's ghost or whatever. Invert the Hero's Journey, and see what happens to Rey as she becomes a dark, murderous beast. But that wouldn't GirlBoss, so, Disney couldn't do it.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:10 am to RLDSC FAN
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The sequels are so reviled that they've made people believe the prequels weren't all that bad lol
They served their purpose by filling in the backstory for the original trilogy in a way that was unique and entertaining. The world building in the prequel movies was mind-blowing. Lucas made it very clear in interviews that he wanted to make the movies look as different as possible from each other, and he did that. Sure, the dialogue wasn’t great, but the soul and heart was there.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:15 am to JasonDBlaha
any time i start feeling a warm fuzzy for the prequels, i go do a Plinkett rewatch.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:31 am to magildachunks
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It's evidence of Generation patterns.
You are exactly right. You can even see this in Gen X’s views of the original trilogy. Being on the younger side of Gen X I have an infinity for ROTJ and even the Ewoks. That was my Star Wars movie because it was the first I saw in the theaters. Mybooder brother sees it differently. So generational patterns play a huge role. But it seems the sequels were rejected by all generations which is a testimony to how bad they are. They made the prequels look significantly better. Just complete crap all around.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:19 am to CarolinaGamecock99
quote:Shocking only to dipshit executives and the dumbasses who defend the sequel trilogy slop. It’s hilarious seeing them say “people hated the prequels but now they love them. They’ll do the same with the sequels.” But that’s literally not happening.
revealed a surprising lack of interest in the franchise's recent sequel trilogy era
For all his faults, Lucas put his heart and soul into Star Wars. And that shows in the Prequel Trilogy even though it’s far from perfect. You can feel his love for the characters and the story. That’s why people love them because they are genuine and actually fit in the universe.
Disney is just using it as a cash cow and thought the fanbase would eat up anything they put out. Forgetting the kids that grew up on the OT and PT are the ones with money. And they aren’t spending money or taking their kids to the new bullshite.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:24 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:We didn't know how good we had it
The sequels are so reviled that they've made people believe the prequels weren't all that bad lol
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:28 am to Scoob
quote:TFA could have been great, but for the other 2 movies. It is the 1st in a trilogy, and it set up several potentially great characters and story threads.
No, The Force Awakens wasn't any good either.
As a standalone, it is fine
It becomes shite when the characters and story threads are subverted and or abandoned because Rian Johnson is just like, so smart and stuff. . .you know?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:35 am to Roaad
quote:Exactly. It was a good opening movie that set up a decent story. Han dying actually felt organic and it made sense.
TFA could have been great, but for the other 2 movies. It is the 1st in a trilogy, and it set up several potentially great characters and story threads. As a standalone, it is fine It becomes shite when the characters and story threads are subverted and or abandoned because Rian Johnson is just like, so smart and stuff. . .you know?
Then like you said, Rian Johnson came in and just decided to shite on everything that was set up for him because he was trying to be smarter than everyone else in the room. His “risks” were completely unnecessary and did nothing but crap on the characters people had grown up with and loved.
That’s why TROS was so bad. Because they brought back JJ to try and course correct. But you need at least two movies to undo all the shite Rian Johnson did and that’s why it was so rushed and had horrific writing.
I’ll never understand people who hate “fan service” or think anything new that relies on past entries are bad. Lore matters and it will always matter.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 9:37 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:39 am to Roaad
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TFA could have been great, but for the other 2 movies. It is the 1st in a trilogy, and it set up several potentially great characters and story threads.
As a standalone, it is fine
If the entire rest of Star Wars didn't exist, I'd agree. However, it was a pretty damn lazy movie when you take into account the original trilogy, but I do still think overall it is a solid movie standalone, as you said. Problem was I could already see the writing on the wall lore wise what they were going to do then, and pretty much nailed all of it.
The next two were such abject abortions that it ruins anything positive TFA could have had going for it.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:43 am to Henry Jones Jr
When Kurtzman bailed on Picard to go do some movie, we got the only good Picard season
And they gave us the only thing we all wanted
And what Star Wars failed to give us
The TNG crew together again, in the same room
Made me tear up a bit
And they gave us the only thing we all wanted
And what Star Wars failed to give us
The TNG crew together again, in the same room
Made me tear up a bit
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