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Posted on 3/12/12 at 4:06 pm to Leauxgan
I write as I speak. Sorry if I have a bi-polar tone.
Posted on 3/22/12 at 10:59 am to TulaneLSU
21 Jump Street For the last ten years, Hollywood has become blatantly sacrilegious. While there were many movies that were disgusting and immoral, they were not big budget, wide-release films. I cannot pin when exactly it happened, but for some reason American Pie comes to mind. That isn't to blame Hollywood, however. Hollywood only made these movies because America had made an aquiline shift in social and moral consciousness. It was turn to such a high degree that not only did society become permissive to this blasphemous, society became receptive to it.
Today reminds me of what the world must have looked like for the psalmist when he wrote "O God, the nations have invaded your inheritance; / they have defiled your holy temple, / they have reduced Jerusalem to rubble." Films that deal with great subjects and lessons are so often now adulterated with the most debased and puerile humor imaginable. 21 Jump Street adds to a long list of such movies. Yet I am an optimist, so I will focus on what is good about this movie first.
The Jonah fellow and the Tatum guy are fabulous together. Has there been better pop-culture, manly chemistry since Danny Devito and Governor Swartzenegger in Twins? Wow, these guys really hit it off, far more than Tatum and Rachel McAdams did in The Vow. You can tell instantly that these guys were made for each other and have a great time together. A deep friendship seems real with them. On-screen, we see how great this friendship and love are. I needn't spoil the scene, but it is true to the words Jesus said about friendship shortly before he died: "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. You are my friends if you do what I command." I hope in the future the two will join forces and do something more noble.
Great friends rely on one another. Where one is weak, the other is strong. We see this brilliantly illustrated through the entire film. In this way, the film subtly borrows from The Breakfast Club. Two people who look to have nothing in common are brought together by their brokenness and weakness. We can learn that we too can find common ground with anyone in this world, if we only become humble. Without that humility, acknowledgement that we are not perfect and are broken, we will find common ground with no one. Why? Because we build our house on a mountain out of reach from anyone else. It's lonely up there, and violently windy.
But even with these strong elements, I cannot overlook the childishness of this film. It, like so many 20-30 something comedies, like The Hangover and Hot Tub Time Machine are hopelessly lost in a cadence of callous corruption. Why do writers today think they need a litany of curse words and explicit and implicit jokes about drugs to make something funny? Transcendent humor rises above this, and in years to come, people will say 21 Jump Street was flawed not because of the acting and directing but because of the mephitic, sophomoric humor. Among the worst offenses are the reaction to making their first arrest, their tripping scene, and the prayer scene.
All in all, I really kind of liked this film because it had a beautiful, well-developed relationship, but like Drive I cannot ignore how all the good is dappled by wickedness. Clean it up, America and Hollywood. 5/10
Today reminds me of what the world must have looked like for the psalmist when he wrote "O God, the nations have invaded your inheritance; / they have defiled your holy temple, / they have reduced Jerusalem to rubble." Films that deal with great subjects and lessons are so often now adulterated with the most debased and puerile humor imaginable. 21 Jump Street adds to a long list of such movies. Yet I am an optimist, so I will focus on what is good about this movie first.
The Jonah fellow and the Tatum guy are fabulous together. Has there been better pop-culture, manly chemistry since Danny Devito and Governor Swartzenegger in Twins? Wow, these guys really hit it off, far more than Tatum and Rachel McAdams did in The Vow. You can tell instantly that these guys were made for each other and have a great time together. A deep friendship seems real with them. On-screen, we see how great this friendship and love are. I needn't spoil the scene, but it is true to the words Jesus said about friendship shortly before he died: "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. You are my friends if you do what I command." I hope in the future the two will join forces and do something more noble.
Great friends rely on one another. Where one is weak, the other is strong. We see this brilliantly illustrated through the entire film. In this way, the film subtly borrows from The Breakfast Club. Two people who look to have nothing in common are brought together by their brokenness and weakness. We can learn that we too can find common ground with anyone in this world, if we only become humble. Without that humility, acknowledgement that we are not perfect and are broken, we will find common ground with no one. Why? Because we build our house on a mountain out of reach from anyone else. It's lonely up there, and violently windy.
But even with these strong elements, I cannot overlook the childishness of this film. It, like so many 20-30 something comedies, like The Hangover and Hot Tub Time Machine are hopelessly lost in a cadence of callous corruption. Why do writers today think they need a litany of curse words and explicit and implicit jokes about drugs to make something funny? Transcendent humor rises above this, and in years to come, people will say 21 Jump Street was flawed not because of the acting and directing but because of the mephitic, sophomoric humor. Among the worst offenses are the reaction to making their first arrest, their tripping scene, and the prayer scene.
All in all, I really kind of liked this film because it had a beautiful, well-developed relationship, but like Drive I cannot ignore how all the good is dappled by wickedness. Clean it up, America and Hollywood. 5/10
This post was edited on 3/22/12 at 11:01 am
Posted on 3/22/12 at 11:01 am to TulaneLSU
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21 Jump Street
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5/10
Tough crowd, eh?
This post was edited on 3/22/12 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/22/12 at 11:05 am to TulaneLSU
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While there were many movies that were disgusting and immoral, they were not big budget, wide-release films.
$43 million? not that outlandish, IMO.
and reading your review, it's hard to believe you even saw the movie.
Posted on 3/22/12 at 11:16 am to Rohan2Reed
R2R, don't shift your own self-uncertainty and awareness as a New Orleans outsider unto me, which is what you do every time you doubt the truth of my words about viewing movies and eating at restaurants. Alexandria is a fine place to know. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Because I have a Stubs card, I have an online registry of movies. Here's my receipt from yesterday:
Because I have a Stubs card, I have an online registry of movies. Here's my receipt from yesterday:
Posted on 3/22/12 at 11:28 am to TulaneLSU
I'm not from Alexandria brother. And I was commenting on the fact that you really didnt tell us anything about the movie.
Posted on 3/22/12 at 11:36 am to TulaneLSU
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Films that deal with great subjects and lessons are so often now adulterated with the most debased and puerile humor imaginable.
I agree with this in general...how many times can you laugh at raunchy comedy? This stuff got old a long time ago...it's just not funny if you're not a teenager. But Hollywood has decided (by and large) they make movies for teenagers with all the Transformers, raunchy comedies, Apatow, comic book films. You have to hit the foreign market to find adult subject films now.
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but like Drive I cannot ignore how all the good is dappled by wickedness.
Don't agree with this...
You mean like wicked good? The wickedness that's part of the story? Not sure what you are talking about here?
This post was edited on 3/22/12 at 11:38 am
Posted on 3/22/12 at 11:43 am to TulaneLSU
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TulaneLSU
You cant keep your proselytizing contained to the OT? Have to bring that crap to this board also?
Posted on 3/23/12 at 1:27 pm to Zamoro10
Hunger Games What the? Apparently, I have been asleep in the world of pop culture. I had not even heard of the movie Hunger Games until I showed up at the theater this morning. Almost as surprised as I was when I ignorantly stepped into my first Twilight movie and was startled by the mass of women in there, was I this morning. What gives? What is the appeal of these sequel-like movies? By the way, I had no idea it was movie series until I left the theater, complaining to someone nearby about how unsatisfying the message was. She looked at me like I was speaking another language and explained it was the first installment of three.
Everyone wants to be part of a new epic story. I'm not sure why. And it drives me up the wall with how many epics I'm being force fed in theaters today, each a repackaging of a Greek or Roman or American tale already told. It's almost as bad as the remakes because, well, they are remakes, just not as blatant. What is it with these epics? Haven't the nerds gotten enough of them? The Matrix, Lord of the Rings, comic book movies, Harry Potter, come on.
Like all morality epics, we could allegorize them; we could find one-to-one correspondences with the characters, themes, and events in the story to modern life. I will not spend my time doing that now, but I am guessing it's that desire to allegorize that makes these morality epics so popular. So what lesson is this movie trying to teach? The iniquity of oppression. It is a movie about class warfare -- about a proletariat that has been oppressed because they dared to fight for more. It's also a movie about the cormorants, the ruling class, which rules with fear and trinkets of hope. Parallels to slavery could be drawn here. Some might also say it's similar to a welfare state doling out paltry checks.
The oppressed suffer from a literal inanition while the audience, those with a conscience at least, see that the real inanition resides in the hearts of the rulers, people who objectify those forced to become, through the withdrawal of victuals, toadies. The oppressed have been so decreated that none even declaims his masters. Instead, they ululate their rancor in the Hunger Games, not against the offenders but against others they are forced to hate and kill. It is utter humiliation and depressing to watch.
The supposed virtuoso in the film is a girl with black hair. I've never seen her before. I wasn't impressed with her either. But these action epics often settle for what they can get, because what type of top flight actress wants that role? She carries her talisman, gifted to her by her sister, as her aegis. Her real shield, however, is her humanity. It is what sees her through the horribleness of her situation. The situation, of course, is the human battlefield-stadium, all too reminiscent of last year's remake, Predators. As the paladin of humanity, she wins her audience with a thaumaturgy of love, not strength or skill. Isn't that how Christ won over his audience as well?
But in her willingness to sacrifice for love, she is froward to all things her captures and audience hold true. Quite unexpectedly, at the movie's climax, her willingness to die for a higher cause than self-preservation creates an imbroglio of highest order for the producers and they are forced to take extreme measures. We leave the film wondering what is next. It certainly does not look like the status quo.
The acting in this movie was borderline bad. The special effects were generally cheap looking. But some of those effects were really good. The pacing was great. At 145 minutes, it feels quicker than a lot of 90 minute movies being made now. The directors and writers did a fantastic job of knowing how much info we needed from a certain setting and knowing when to cut from it. Too bad the director of the recent remake of Conan did not likewise have that talent. In the end, it was rather unfulfilling, but I may re-evaluate after the next movie. If I see it. 6/10
Everyone wants to be part of a new epic story. I'm not sure why. And it drives me up the wall with how many epics I'm being force fed in theaters today, each a repackaging of a Greek or Roman or American tale already told. It's almost as bad as the remakes because, well, they are remakes, just not as blatant. What is it with these epics? Haven't the nerds gotten enough of them? The Matrix, Lord of the Rings, comic book movies, Harry Potter, come on.
Like all morality epics, we could allegorize them; we could find one-to-one correspondences with the characters, themes, and events in the story to modern life. I will not spend my time doing that now, but I am guessing it's that desire to allegorize that makes these morality epics so popular. So what lesson is this movie trying to teach? The iniquity of oppression. It is a movie about class warfare -- about a proletariat that has been oppressed because they dared to fight for more. It's also a movie about the cormorants, the ruling class, which rules with fear and trinkets of hope. Parallels to slavery could be drawn here. Some might also say it's similar to a welfare state doling out paltry checks.
The oppressed suffer from a literal inanition while the audience, those with a conscience at least, see that the real inanition resides in the hearts of the rulers, people who objectify those forced to become, through the withdrawal of victuals, toadies. The oppressed have been so decreated that none even declaims his masters. Instead, they ululate their rancor in the Hunger Games, not against the offenders but against others they are forced to hate and kill. It is utter humiliation and depressing to watch.
The supposed virtuoso in the film is a girl with black hair. I've never seen her before. I wasn't impressed with her either. But these action epics often settle for what they can get, because what type of top flight actress wants that role? She carries her talisman, gifted to her by her sister, as her aegis. Her real shield, however, is her humanity. It is what sees her through the horribleness of her situation. The situation, of course, is the human battlefield-stadium, all too reminiscent of last year's remake, Predators. As the paladin of humanity, she wins her audience with a thaumaturgy of love, not strength or skill. Isn't that how Christ won over his audience as well?
But in her willingness to sacrifice for love, she is froward to all things her captures and audience hold true. Quite unexpectedly, at the movie's climax, her willingness to die for a higher cause than self-preservation creates an imbroglio of highest order for the producers and they are forced to take extreme measures. We leave the film wondering what is next. It certainly does not look like the status quo.
The acting in this movie was borderline bad. The special effects were generally cheap looking. But some of those effects were really good. The pacing was great. At 145 minutes, it feels quicker than a lot of 90 minute movies being made now. The directors and writers did a fantastic job of knowing how much info we needed from a certain setting and knowing when to cut from it. Too bad the director of the recent remake of Conan did not likewise have that talent. In the end, it was rather unfulfilling, but I may re-evaluate after the next movie. If I see it. 6/10
This post was edited on 3/23/12 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 3/23/12 at 1:52 pm to TulaneLSU
So, you just randomly went to the movie theater on a Friday morning?
Posted on 3/23/12 at 1:59 pm to TulaneLSU
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Almost as surprised as I was when I ignorantly stepped into my first Twilight movie and was startled by the mass of women in there, was I this morning.
Right.
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The supposed virtuoso in the film is a girl with black hair. I've never seen her before. I wasn't impressed with her either.
You're a self-professed movie expert and you haven't seen Winter's Bone?
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The acting in this movie was borderline bad.
I doubt that with Jennifer Lawrence.
Posted on 3/23/12 at 2:04 pm to TulaneLSU
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What the? Apparently, I have been asleep in the world of pop culture. I had not even heard of the movie Hunger Games until I showed up at the theater this morning.
obvious troll is obvious
Posted on 3/23/12 at 2:08 pm to Rohan2Reed
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obvious troll is obvious
Rules of the Internet #14
Posted on 3/23/12 at 2:53 pm to TulaneLSU
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last year's remake, Predators
Wasn't a remake and didn't come out last year.
Posted on 3/23/12 at 2:58 pm to TulaneLSU
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What the? Apparently, I have been asleep in the world of pop culture. I had not even heard of the movie Hunger Games until I showed up at the theater this morning.
False.
Posted on 3/23/12 at 3:04 pm to DanglingFury
0% chance this dude has seen The Hunger Games. 
Posted on 3/23/12 at 3:05 pm to TulaneLSU
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Apparently, I have been asleep in the world of pop culture. I had not even heard of the movie Hunger Games until I showed up at the theater this morning. Almost as surprised as I was when I ignorantly stepped into my first Twilight movie and was startled by the mass of women in there, was I this morning.
So you're a moron. And a Troll. You were funnier when you were called Charles Bronson.
This post was edited on 3/23/12 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/23/12 at 3:08 pm to TulaneLSU
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Hunger Games 6/10
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True Grit 7/10 Thor 8/10 Glee 3D Movie Concert 6/10
The Glee 3D movie almost as good as True Grit? Thor (which I enjoyed) better than True Grit?
Not sure if I can take your review too seriously.
Posted on 3/23/12 at 3:10 pm to elprez00
If anything the acting was the best part of the film
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