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The Rookie (Season 3) - *SPOILERS*
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:15 pm
I don't know if we have any fans of The Rookie, but I freely admit to liking just about anything Nathan Fillion does. I think he's one of the better comedic actors currently working.
I really enjoyed the first two seasons. I thought they did a good job doing several things:
1. A diverse cast without overselling the diversity.
- The rookies are Fillion's character (an over 45 rookie), a black recruit who is a prodigy (dad is a career cop in IA), and a woman of mixed Hispanic-Asian heritage. Their TOs are a no-nonsense white guy who is a former Marine, a black woman (who left after season 1 - the new one is a former undercover cop now wanting to get back home to be there for her child who the father has full custody of), and a Hispanic woman who is more of a balance personality and desires to be a detective. The sergeant is a black man who's been in the force for a long time and is nearing retirement (played by Richard T. Jones).
- During the first two seasons, while the racial differences do come up, they're not over done and rarely the overall theme to an episode. It's more along the lines of, "I expected this person to speak Spanish" or the like.
2. Mostly serious with mixed comedic moments. I mean, come on - that's Fillion's bread and butter.
3. A fairly decent grasp on actual police procedure. (Very little nonsense like the stuff you see on NCIS and the like).
The came along season 3. Season 2 ended on a hell of a cliffhanger, and the opening to season 3 closed it up. Mostly bringing it back to status quo, except for the fact that they kill off the detective that you kind of grow to like in season 2 (played by Harold Perrineau - Link from the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movies), but in what I consider a "not so great" writing exercise, goes from being a cop who broke some rules to capture a serial killer to a full on police informant (but still won't kill) to being almost giddy at the thought of shooting Fillion's character. That's for another rant though.
After that, season 3 has taken a deep dive into "wokeness". Now, I'm typically the kind of guy where you have to go a bit overboard before it bothers me much. So far, I've only completely stopped watching a show because it got too political (Doctor Who), but The Rookie is getting dangerously close to that for me. If not for Fillion, I definitely would have dumped it to the side.
There are so many over-the-top examples of this, but by FAR the most egregious, IMHO, is the example of the "obviously racist cop", played by Brandon Routh.
First, and most obviously, is that Brandon Routh is best known for playing Superman and The Atom. So it's a bit of a stretch for my brain to accept hearing him say things like, "I bet you and your homies do X..." or answer the phone with, "What's up my brother?" while asking the black rookie under his wing if he got into UCLA by playing sports.
It doesn't stop there, though. Even tiny things, like "this male OBGYN must be a complete a-hole that doesn't listen to his patients, so let's ask the nurse who directs us to the female doctor". Yeah, I get that it is a thing - but my wife's OBGYN is male and he absolutely listened to everything she told him (and found a cyst on her ovaries that they were able to safely remove). I don't think it's as common as they want us to think.
IF it had just been those two, I would probably have shrugged them off, but there are examples o'plenty. It's getting to the point that I'm not sure I want to keep watching, Fillion or not.
In the first two seasons, the main plot points were a crime family, a serial killer, a dirty cop, the death of the police captain. All stuff you expect in a crime series.
So far the main plot point that extends beyond single episodes is over-the-top racist cop.
Also, apparently to be Nathan Fillion's mom in a series you have to be a redhead and somewhat terrifying to be someone's mom.
I really enjoyed the first two seasons. I thought they did a good job doing several things:
1. A diverse cast without overselling the diversity.
- The rookies are Fillion's character (an over 45 rookie), a black recruit who is a prodigy (dad is a career cop in IA), and a woman of mixed Hispanic-Asian heritage. Their TOs are a no-nonsense white guy who is a former Marine, a black woman (who left after season 1 - the new one is a former undercover cop now wanting to get back home to be there for her child who the father has full custody of), and a Hispanic woman who is more of a balance personality and desires to be a detective. The sergeant is a black man who's been in the force for a long time and is nearing retirement (played by Richard T. Jones).
- During the first two seasons, while the racial differences do come up, they're not over done and rarely the overall theme to an episode. It's more along the lines of, "I expected this person to speak Spanish" or the like.
2. Mostly serious with mixed comedic moments. I mean, come on - that's Fillion's bread and butter.
3. A fairly decent grasp on actual police procedure. (Very little nonsense like the stuff you see on NCIS and the like).
The came along season 3. Season 2 ended on a hell of a cliffhanger, and the opening to season 3 closed it up. Mostly bringing it back to status quo, except for the fact that they kill off the detective that you kind of grow to like in season 2 (played by Harold Perrineau - Link from the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movies), but in what I consider a "not so great" writing exercise, goes from being a cop who broke some rules to capture a serial killer to a full on police informant (but still won't kill) to being almost giddy at the thought of shooting Fillion's character. That's for another rant though.
After that, season 3 has taken a deep dive into "wokeness". Now, I'm typically the kind of guy where you have to go a bit overboard before it bothers me much. So far, I've only completely stopped watching a show because it got too political (Doctor Who), but The Rookie is getting dangerously close to that for me. If not for Fillion, I definitely would have dumped it to the side.
There are so many over-the-top examples of this, but by FAR the most egregious, IMHO, is the example of the "obviously racist cop", played by Brandon Routh.
First, and most obviously, is that Brandon Routh is best known for playing Superman and The Atom. So it's a bit of a stretch for my brain to accept hearing him say things like, "I bet you and your homies do X..." or answer the phone with, "What's up my brother?" while asking the black rookie under his wing if he got into UCLA by playing sports.
It doesn't stop there, though. Even tiny things, like "this male OBGYN must be a complete a-hole that doesn't listen to his patients, so let's ask the nurse who directs us to the female doctor". Yeah, I get that it is a thing - but my wife's OBGYN is male and he absolutely listened to everything she told him (and found a cyst on her ovaries that they were able to safely remove). I don't think it's as common as they want us to think.
IF it had just been those two, I would probably have shrugged them off, but there are examples o'plenty. It's getting to the point that I'm not sure I want to keep watching, Fillion or not.
In the first two seasons, the main plot points were a crime family, a serial killer, a dirty cop, the death of the police captain. All stuff you expect in a crime series.
So far the main plot point that extends beyond single episodes is over-the-top racist cop.
Also, apparently to be Nathan Fillion's mom in a series you have to be a redhead and somewhat terrifying to be someone's mom.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:20 pm to skrayper
It's always been slightly woke, but Fillion's charisma is enough to get by and they have a solid supporting cast.
But I'm with you, this season has been way over the top.
I'm not going to lie, I laugh every time Routh makes one of those obviously racist comments for no other reason than it sounds completely ridiculous coming out of him. He's like a bad comedian doing a "act like the ultimate white racist dude," take. It's completely insincere and awkward.
Completely pulls me out of the show.
But I'm with you, this season has been way over the top.
I'm not going to lie, I laugh every time Routh makes one of those obviously racist comments for no other reason than it sounds completely ridiculous coming out of him. He's like a bad comedian doing a "act like the ultimate white racist dude," take. It's completely insincere and awkward.
Completely pulls me out of the show.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:32 pm to Freauxzen
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I'm not going to lie, I laugh every time Routh makes one of those obviously racist comments for no other reason than it sounds completely ridiculous coming out of him. He's like a bad comedian doing a "act like the ultimate white racist dude," take. It's completely insincere and awkward.

I know... he's just too nice a guy, I think. It was different when he was on a comedy playing an over the top douche (Scott Pilgrim), but trying to do so seriously? He just isn't that guy - and I like him. I thought he was the perfect "next generation Christopher Reeves" and he was one of the better parts of Legends of Tomorrow.
To clarify, I don't mind "slightly woke" if the show is a good show. Somethings will make me roll my eyes but otherwise it can still be something worth watching.
This season, though, it's so absurdly over the top. I also don't think it's the kind of thing that will attract viewers, if that's what they're aiming for. They either already had that demographic, or they're not going to start watching now - but they'll definitely lose some folks over it.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:34 pm to skrayper
It always seemed more than slightly woke to me. My wife and I watched season 1 and I wanted to bail after that. She talked me into watching season 2 with her, which I did. After season 2 I told her she was on her own because I was done. I could see where it was going in terms of the woke crap and I don't watch TV to be lectured by celebrities. Your synopsis of season 3 so far confirms my hunch
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:17 pm to skrayper
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Very little nonsense like the stuff you see on NCIS and the like
The hell you talking about? Jethro Gibbs and company have no nonsense whatsoever. None.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:35 pm to skrayper
I don’t think many in here watch it
But it’s a weekly treat for me. I enjoy the show .
Lucy is so hot .
But it’s a weekly treat for me. I enjoy the show .
Lucy is so hot .
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:41 pm to L.A.
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It always seemed more than slightly woke to me
I agree. I'm also a Nathan Fillion fan after watching Castle. My wife loves it so I've hesitantly stayed in through the first 2 seasons. I'm pretty close to being ready to bail now...about the only reason I'm still watching is because the Brandon Routh character is so over the top I want to see his arc out. It doesn't hurt that there isn't a whole lot of new stuff to watch either.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:57 pm to Lawyered
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Lucy is so hot .
I will not lie, this is absolutely true. (Hopefully I'm not pushing tDroppings' policies here...)

Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:02 pm to L.A.
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Your synopsis of season 3 so far confirms my hunch
Aside from episode 1, yeah. If you had watched the season finale of season 2, then finishing off the story arc is worth it.
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It always seemed more than slightly woke to me.
Maybe I'm less observant or more desensitized to it.
Growing up in Alabama, I remember being constantly told how racist I was by white people up North and out West because of where I lived (not directly, of course, but even way back I can remember how the South was generally depicted as "hates black people" and "talks funny").
Alabama was still being referred to by stuff that happened in the 50s and 60s. Yes, they were historically relevant, but you'd think that someone had encased the whole state in amber immediately after the Selma riots. I was never proud of that stuff, but damn if TV didn't want to remind me constantly that I must be a racist if I lived in Alabama.
I guess that just numbed me to anything beyond "over the top" preachiness. I dunno.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:17 pm to skrayper
I watch it and I have been telling my wife the same stuff. Fillian gets a long leash with me but that leash is getting very small. Too much with the “cops bad” schtick. I watch it for a cop drama, not a political lecture.
I’m getting close to stopping.
I’m getting close to stopping.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:10 pm to skrayper
I really enjoyed it the first two seasons. A little woke, but whatever I can live with that. This season has been a disaster, and from my understanding the ratings have just gone into the toilet. I don't understand why people willingly ruin their TV shows to preach to people who want to watch entertainment to get away from life.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:26 pm to skrayper
Started watching it last month on Hulu and was pleasantly surprised at how funny it could be. And the diversity of the cast was definitely done in a good way, not the usual sjw crap. Although I do notice how there are ton of skinheads and white criminals. In L.A. of all places.
The Captain from season 1 and the mixed chick are pleasant to look at.
Just as I was getting ready to watch heard about the actor who plays the black rookie's big fight against rascism. I already know it's going to be a shite show, so I problably will just finish season two and be done.
The Captain from season 1 and the mixed chick are pleasant to look at.
Just as I was getting ready to watch heard about the actor who plays the black rookie's big fight against rascism. I already know it's going to be a shite show, so I problably will just finish season two and be done.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 6:31 pm to LoveL
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so I problably will just finish season two and be done.
Watch Episode 1 of Season 3, and then stop. The preachiness starts at Episode 2, as Episode 1 is focusing on wrapping up from the finale of 2.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 7:15 pm to LoveL
quote:This is an example of the subtle woke manipulation that cause me to stop watching. I lived in Los Angeles for 27 years. For every crime committed by a skinhead or other type of white supremacist, there are 100 crimes committed by black gangs like the Crips and Bloods and 1,000 committed by Hispanic street gangs like MS-13, 18th Street, the Locos, the Mexican Klan, and the Mexican Mafia. And there are dozens and dozens of Asian gangs whose names I don't know. But to watch The Rookie, you'd think L.A. was being overrun with neo Nazis.
Although I do notice how there are ton of skinheads and white criminals. In L.A. of all places.
It's cowardly, dishonest, woke propaganda.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 7:35 pm to L.A.
I am a huge fan of Fillion as well and have seen every episode of Castle and the Rookie. I enjoyed the first two seasons, but the in your face race baiting is getting to be too much for me. I don’t mind it being a part of an episode here and there, but it feels more like sitting through a blm training session than a cop show now. I’m about to give up if they don’t start mixing in something interesting into the storyline. They had a great jumping off point with how they ended season 2, and just abandoned it to become over the top woke every episode.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 9:40 pm to skrayper
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I must be a racist if I lived in Alabama.
A patently false stereotype.
Now the incest stuff is true, but that doesn’t make you racist.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:29 am to skrayper
I was an avid fan of seasons 1&2 but the race shite this season has turned me off. I’m tired of shows telling me “white man bad, black man poor and innocent.”
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