To those upset by no Robert's Rebellion spinoff, I bring good news

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I just would've like to see the Battle of the Bells.

Rebellion's dark hour, Robert is wounded and hiding in the city. Jon Connington arrives and does house by house. Ned arrives with reinforcements. It turns into a battle like Stalingrad minus the guns and siege. Jon loses and asks Tywin what he should've done?

"Burn the town."

Bobby B is not pleased by this thread

I'd also like to argue that Robert is not a narcissist. He's delusional as frick, sure, but this doesn't make him a narcissist. I don't think he overestimates his own abilities and was forced onto the throne. Robert realizes when he fricks up and will apologize, something a narcissist will almost never do. He is extremely empathetic. The only thing I think he has in common with narcissists is his quick temper.

Now compare this to all the Lannister children, all 3 being nearly off the charts in this. All of them overestimate their intelligence and skills. They blame others for every horrible thing that has happened in their life. They either have no empathy for anyone outside of themselves or can quickly turn off that trait if they so choose (Tyrion while empathetic to societal outcasts can do this as well; Jaime was also more than willing to murder Arya just so Cersei could get her rocks off). They almost never apologize for anything. They're obsessed with themselves, which Jaime and Cersei have taken into overdrive with their incestuous relationship.

Jaime has obviously gotten much more humble as the series progressed, but then he can threaten to send Edmure's son to him in a trebuchet. As for Tyrion and Cersei, they've doubled down. Tyrion blames every horrible thing that has happened to him and the acts he's committed on his father (somewhat justifiably), while Cersei will blame everyone from Tyrion to her tailor for every bad thing that happens to her. Archer is obviously more cut from Lannister than Baratheon cloth.

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somewhat justifiable? they dude had his own son sent to executioner just for being born and then slept with the love of his life and turned her against him.

i love my dad and i'd kill him for less.

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Tywin actually did something much, much worse to Tyrion in the books which provokes him killing Tywin once he finds out about it. Sentencing Tyrion to die was a blip on the radar compared to this in his mind that he didn't even bring it up.

But inside his head, every little flaw about himself, he blames on his father. Does his father have a lot to do with the man Tyrion is today? Yes. But Tyrion treats people horribly for no reason much of the time and does terrible things, of which I don't think he can blame his father. But it all boils down to Tywin when Tyrion does something egregious in his mind, and that's the same line Cersei thinks about Tyrion.

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allowed his grandson to treat like shite,

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You can't put that on Tywin at all. Tywin sent Tyrion down there specifically to control Joffrey and Cersei. Tywin reprimands Joffrey on a few occasions and did not reprimand Tyrion for threatening to geld Joffrey when he was going to try to strip Sansa down and likeky rape her with Lord's Right. Tywin doesn't want Joffrey doing that crap to Tyrion, especially publicly. I don't think even Tyrion blamed Tywin for that and more Cersei and Robert being awful parents.

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But Tyrion treats people horribly for no reason much of the time

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i'm struggling to remember that in books or show. he's no saint, but he's mostly kind.

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When does Tyrion treat anyone horribly? Hell he even looks out for his kidnapper in the books.

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Mostly verbally, but Penny and Jorah certainly come to mind. He also considers poisoning Jon Connington and then later poisons a prostitute for really no reason. This is more post-Tywin murder Tyrion.

The whoooooooore is pregnant!

ON AN OPEN FIELD!!!!