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Unearthed Woody Allen archive suggests an unhealthy obsession with teenage girls
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:23 am
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:23 am
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Woody Allen is wrapping up a new movie. Just kidding: He doesn’t make new movies. What he’s editing now, “A Rainy Day in New York,” about a college-age love triangle, could, like any of his movies, instead be titled “A Woman Gets Objectified by a Man.” This, in his view, is the pinnacle of art, its truest calling and highest purpose. Especially when it involves young women who are compelled to lackluster men merely by the gravity of the men’s obsession.
I know this because I’ve seen his whole career up close — going through all of his drafts and scribblings, his psychological and physical cutting-room floor that exists in the 56-box, 57-year personal archives he has been curating since 1980 at Princeton University (which he did not attend). According to the staff at Firestone Library’s rare-books wing, I’m the first person to read Allen’s collection — the Woody Papers — from cover to cover, and from the very beginning to the very end, Allen drips with repetitious misogyny. Allen, who has been nominated for 24 Oscars, never needed ideas besides the lecherous man and his beautiful conquest — a concept around which he has made films about Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Manhattan, journalism, time travel, communist revolution, murder, writing novels, Thanksgiving dinner, Hollywood and many other things — because that one idea bore so much fruit for his career.
Allen’s work is flatly boorish. Running through all of the boxes is an insistent, vivid obsession with young women and girls: There’s the “wealthy, educated, respected” male character in one short story (“By Destiny Denied: Incident at Entwhistle’s”) who lives with a 21-year-old “Indian” woman. First, Allen’s revisions reduce her to 18, then double down, literally, and turn her into two 18-year-olds. There’s the 16-year-old in an unmade television pitch described as “a flashy sexy blonde in a flaming red low cut evening gown with a long slit up the side.” There’s the 17-year-old girl in another short story, “Consider Kaplan,” whose 53-year-old neighbor falls in love with her as the two share a silent, one-floor-long elevator ride in their Park Avenue co-op. There’s the female college student in “Rainy Day” who “should not be 20 or 21, sounds more like 18 — or even 17 — but 18 seems better.” That script includes a male college student but gives no description of his age. Another of Allen’s male characters, in a draft of a 1977 New Yorker story called “The Kugelmass Episode,” is a 45-year-old fascinated by “coeds” at City College of New York. In the margin next to this character’s dialogue, Allen wrote, then crossed out, “c’est moi” — it’s me.
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:35 am to Bench McElroy
Well no shite. Also, the Louis CK movie that will never see the light of day had an awkward masturbation scene. They all want to get caught, at the end of the day.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 7:23 am to lsuwontonwrap
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They all want to transform society, at the end of the day.
FIFY
Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:11 am to Bench McElroy
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the 56-box, 57-year personal archives he has been curating since 1980 at Princeton University (
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I’m the first person to read Allen’s collection

Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:15 am to Bench McElroy
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Woody Allen
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suggests an unhealthy obsession with teenage girls
This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 8:16 am
Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:27 am to Bench McElroy
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suggests an unhealthy obsession with teenage girls

You don't say? A guy who slept with his 21 yr old adopted daughter has an unhealthy obsession?
Thank God it's suggested cause I would have never thought such a thing was possible
Posted on 1/7/18 at 10:45 am to danfraz
quote:Given what we know, do you really think he waited until she was of age?
You don't say? A guy who slept with his 21 yr old adopted daughter has an unhealthy obsession?
Posted on 1/7/18 at 10:54 am to blueboy
For the sake of accuracy it wasn’t his adapted daughter it was his long time girl friend Mia Farrow’ adopted daughter
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:13 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Not that it fricking matters.
For the sake of accuracy it wasn’t his adapted daughter it was his long time girl friend Mia Farrow’ adopted daughter
He did adopt Dylan Farrow, though, who said he abused her when she was 7.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:18 am to blueboy
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Given what we know, do you really think he waited until she was of age?
Of course not.
It shouldn't but it ruins every Woody Allen movie for me. Can't watch any of them anymore and I thought WonderWheel or whatever looked interesting. But just can't go there. That was before the "archives"

Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:27 am to blueboy
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He did adopt Dylan Farrow, though, who said he abused her when she was 7.
Yes but those accusations are questionable.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:35 am to H-Town Tiger
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For the sake of accuracy it wasn’t his adapted daughter it was his long time girl friend Mia Farrow’ adopted daughter
Nah, that downplays it. He was her adopted father. I'm not going to play that game on what a monster Woody Allen actually is. There's a reason Ronan is leading the charge against these rapists.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:05 pm to H-Town Tiger
Even the old dyed in the wool Allen fans were beside themselves. The "accusations" were way too detailed and specific to be made up.
He married Soon Yi about 12 seconds after Farrow left him, so I'd say that probably means he was boning her long before that.
He married Soon Yi about 12 seconds after Farrow left him, so I'd say that probably means he was boning her long before that.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:48 pm to biglego
I wouldn't need to read 56 boxes to draw that conclusion. Dude married his ex wife's adopted daughter.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:08 pm to OMLandshark
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Nah, that downplays it. He was her adopted father
But he wasn’t, that’s just false. Woody and Mia didn’t even live together. It is not helpful to trump up facts to get someone. Him sleeping with and having nude pictures of Soon Yi maybe be creepy and gross but if she was over 18 not illegal
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what a monster Woody Allen actually is
He may be but as far as I’ve seen there’s no actual evidence that he did molest a child and screwing and later marrying (still married 20+ years later)!your ex girlfriends adopted daughter that was over 18 may be creepy and gross by conventional standards but not illegal.
This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
Come on, man. It doesn't take a genius to see what he's done.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:21 pm to Bench McElroy
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Well no shite
Yeah, he sort of announced it to the world when he started fricking his teenage daughter.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:33 pm to blueboy
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The "accusations" were way too detailed and specific to be made up.
I have an easy time believing WA is guilty but the specificity of a child's claims doesn't turn out to be one of the reasons. People have come up with a variety of spectacular allegations involving sex crimes over the years.
The west memphis three for example were railroaded without evidence because of the hysteria that accompanied the accusations.
What seems meaningful to me when it comes to accusations is either evidence to support the story or independent accusations by a different person with a similar story. I didn't think Bill Cosby might be a serial drug rapist until more than one woman emerged with the same type of story.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:42 pm to Napoleon
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I wouldn't need to read 56 boxes to draw that conclusion. Dude married his ex wife's adopted daughter.
Even if you didn't know about that just watching a few of his latter day movies should clue you in b/c every time he is the male love interest the female love interest is always laughably younger and far better looking than him.
This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 2:43 pm
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