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Unearthed Woody Allen archive suggests an unhealthy obsession with teenage girls

Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:23 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:23 am
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Woody Allen is wrapping up a new movie. Just kidding: He doesn’t make new movies. What he’s editing now, “A Rainy Day in New York,” about a college-age love triangle, could, like any of his movies, instead be titled “A Woman Gets Objectified by a Man.” This, in his view, is the pinnacle of art, its truest calling and highest purpose. Especially when it involves young women who are compelled to lackluster men merely by the gravity of the men’s obsession.

I know this because I’ve seen his whole career up close — going through all of his drafts and scribblings, his psychological and physical cutting-room floor that exists in the 56-box, 57-year personal archives he has been curating since 1980 at Princeton University (which he did not attend). According to the staff at Firestone Library’s rare-books wing, I’m the first person to read Allen’s collection — the Woody Papers — from cover to cover, and from the very beginning to the very end, Allen drips with repetitious misogyny. Allen, who has been nominated for 24 Oscars, never needed ideas besides the lecherous man and his beautiful conquest — a concept around which he has made films about Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Manhattan, journalism, time travel, communist revolution, murder, writing novels, Thanksgiving dinner, Hollywood and many other things — because that one idea bore so much fruit for his career.

Allen’s work is flatly boorish. Running through all of the boxes is an insistent, vivid obsession with young women and girls: There’s the “wealthy, educated, respected” male character in one short story (“By Destiny Denied: Incident at Entwhistle’s”) who lives with a 21-year-old “Indian” woman. First, Allen’s revisions reduce her to 18, then double down, literally, and turn her into two 18-year-olds. There’s the 16-year-old in an unmade television pitch described as “a flashy sexy blonde in a flaming red low cut evening gown with a long slit up the side.” There’s the 17-year-old girl in another short story, “Consider Kaplan,” whose 53-year-old neighbor falls in love with her as the two share a silent, one-floor-long elevator ride in their Park Avenue co-op. There’s the female college student in “Rainy Day” who “should not be 20 or 21, sounds more like 18 — or even 17 — but 18 seems better.” That script includes a male college student but gives no description of his age. Another of Allen’s male characters, in a draft of a 1977 New Yorker story called “The Kugelmass Episode,” is a 45-year-old fascinated by “coeds” at City College of New York. In the margin next to this character’s dialogue, Allen wrote, then crossed out, “c’est moi” — it’s me.



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Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:35 am to
Well no shite. Also, the Louis CK movie that will never see the light of day had an awkward masturbation scene. They all want to get caught, at the end of the day.
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 7:23 am to
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They all want to transform society, at the end of the day.


FIFY

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:11 am to
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the 56-box, 57-year personal archives he has been curating since 1980 at Princeton University (

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I’m the first person to read Allen’s collection

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:15 am to
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Woody Allen


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suggests an unhealthy obsession with teenage girls


This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 8:16 am
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 8:27 am to
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suggests an unhealthy obsession with teenage girls






You don't say? A guy who slept with his 21 yr old adopted daughter has an unhealthy obsession?

Thank God it's suggested cause I would have never thought such a thing was possible
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60217 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 10:45 am to
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You don't say? A guy who slept with his 21 yr old adopted daughter has an unhealthy obsession?

Given what we know, do you really think he waited until she was of age?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 10:54 am to
For the sake of accuracy it wasn’t his adapted daughter it was his long time girl friend Mia Farrow’ adopted daughter
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:01 am to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60217 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:13 am to
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For the sake of accuracy it wasn’t his adapted daughter it was his long time girl friend Mia Farrow’ adopted daughter

Not that it fricking matters.

He did adopt Dylan Farrow, though, who said he abused her when she was 7.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:18 am to
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Given what we know, do you really think he waited until she was of age?



Of course not.


It shouldn't but it ruins every Woody Allen movie for me. Can't watch any of them anymore and I thought WonderWheel or whatever looked interesting. But just can't go there. That was before the "archives"
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59922 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:27 am to
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He did adopt Dylan Farrow, though, who said he abused her when she was 7.


Yes but those accusations are questionable.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 11:35 am to
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For the sake of accuracy it wasn’t his adapted daughter it was his long time girl friend Mia Farrow’ adopted daughter



Nah, that downplays it. He was her adopted father. I'm not going to play that game on what a monster Woody Allen actually is. There's a reason Ronan is leading the charge against these rapists.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60217 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:05 pm to
Even the old dyed in the wool Allen fans were beside themselves. The "accusations" were way too detailed and specific to be made up.

He married Soon Yi about 12 seconds after Farrow left him, so I'd say that probably means he was boning her long before that.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/7/18 at 12:48 pm to
I wouldn't need to read 56 boxes to draw that conclusion. Dude married his ex wife's adopted daughter.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59922 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Nah, that downplays it. He was her adopted father


But he wasn’t, that’s just false. Woody and Mia didn’t even live together. It is not helpful to trump up facts to get someone. Him sleeping with and having nude pictures of Soon Yi maybe be creepy and gross but if she was over 18 not illegal

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what a monster Woody Allen actually is


He may be but as far as I’ve seen there’s no actual evidence that he did molest a child and screwing and later marrying (still married 20+ years later)!your ex girlfriends adopted daughter that was over 18 may be creepy and gross by conventional standards but not illegal.


This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:18 pm to
Come on, man. It doesn't take a genius to see what he's done.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38014 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:21 pm to
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Well no shite


Yeah, he sort of announced it to the world when he started fricking his teenage daughter.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36652 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:33 pm to
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The "accusations" were way too detailed and specific to be made up.



I have an easy time believing WA is guilty but the specificity of a child's claims doesn't turn out to be one of the reasons. People have come up with a variety of spectacular allegations involving sex crimes over the years.

The west memphis three for example were railroaded without evidence because of the hysteria that accompanied the accusations.

What seems meaningful to me when it comes to accusations is either evidence to support the story or independent accusations by a different person with a similar story. I didn't think Bill Cosby might be a serial drug rapist until more than one woman emerged with the same type of story.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59915 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:42 pm to
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I wouldn't need to read 56 boxes to draw that conclusion. Dude married his ex wife's adopted daughter.


Even if you didn't know about that just watching a few of his latter day movies should clue you in b/c every time he is the male love interest the female love interest is always laughably younger and far better looking than him.
This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 2:43 pm
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