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Was Wolf of Wall Street a knockoff of Boiler Room?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:31 pm
Same movie, stylized different.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:33 pm to trillhog
It certainly felt like that.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:34 pm to trillhog
Well.....
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Boiler Room is a 2000 American crime drama film written and directed by Ben Younger, and starring Giovanni Ribisi, Vin Diesel, Nia Long, Ben Affleck, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan, Tom Everett Scott, Ron Rifkin, and Jamie Kennedy.
The film is based on interviews the writer conducted with numerous brokers over a two-year period, and is inspired by the firm Stratton Oakmont and the life of Jordan Belfort, whose autobiography was later adapted into Martin Scorsese's 2013 film The Wolf of Wall Street, starring Leonardo DiCaprio as Belfort.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:36 pm to sicboy
interesting....
I felt like they were the same movie, Boiler room being way better of course. Yellow Ferrari
I felt like they were the same movie, Boiler room being way better of course. Yellow Ferrari
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:38 pm to trillhog
Googled and found this.
Revisiting Boiler Room, the safe, redemptive Wolf of Wall Street predecessor
Revisiting Boiler Room (2000) after soaking up The Wolf of Wall Street is like being lied to after a horrific accident. Both movies are based on Jordan Belfort’s misadventures at the Long Island penny stock scam factor Stratton Oakmont. And that’s about where the similarities end. Boiler Room is the movie for those outraged at Wolf’s lack of redemption. It’s the happy ending version of a tale that really has no happy ending.
But it still ain’t bad, even if its version of Belfort, named Michael Brantley here, is played by a mealy-mouthed Tom Everett Scott. He shows up every half hour or so before skulking back to his office. Not a very bad boy compared to Leonardo DiCaprio’s whoring, coke-snorting Belfort. Instead, the focus is on a conscience-stricken junior broker, played by Giovanni Ribisi, who acts as a sort of audience surrogate. In this sense Boiler Room is rather traditional. No amorality here. The really bad guys get punished, and we leave feeling righteous – which doesn’t stop us from reveling in the fugazi tough-guy antics of Vin Diesel, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan and the less scrupulous brokers at JT Marlin, the movie’s Stratton Oakmont stand-in.
The Wolf of Wall Street, up for five Oscars (including best picture), is a far superior film for many reasons. Here’s the most important: It doesn’t give us an easy out. Here we have bad guys doing bad things and enjoying it – and making us enjoy it. It has caused furious debate, as bold art often does. Is Scorsese celebrating these heathens? If so, is he implicating us in the celebration? These are tricky questions and provocative issues. They matter, and they make the movie matter. By pushing its Belfort to the background and focusing on a conflicted young man trying to please his dad (the great character actor Ron Rifkin), Boiler Room plays a combustible subject safe.
Revisiting Boiler Room, the safe, redemptive Wolf of Wall Street predecessor
Revisiting Boiler Room (2000) after soaking up The Wolf of Wall Street is like being lied to after a horrific accident. Both movies are based on Jordan Belfort’s misadventures at the Long Island penny stock scam factor Stratton Oakmont. And that’s about where the similarities end. Boiler Room is the movie for those outraged at Wolf’s lack of redemption. It’s the happy ending version of a tale that really has no happy ending.
But it still ain’t bad, even if its version of Belfort, named Michael Brantley here, is played by a mealy-mouthed Tom Everett Scott. He shows up every half hour or so before skulking back to his office. Not a very bad boy compared to Leonardo DiCaprio’s whoring, coke-snorting Belfort. Instead, the focus is on a conscience-stricken junior broker, played by Giovanni Ribisi, who acts as a sort of audience surrogate. In this sense Boiler Room is rather traditional. No amorality here. The really bad guys get punished, and we leave feeling righteous – which doesn’t stop us from reveling in the fugazi tough-guy antics of Vin Diesel, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan and the less scrupulous brokers at JT Marlin, the movie’s Stratton Oakmont stand-in.
The Wolf of Wall Street, up for five Oscars (including best picture), is a far superior film for many reasons. Here’s the most important: It doesn’t give us an easy out. Here we have bad guys doing bad things and enjoying it – and making us enjoy it. It has caused furious debate, as bold art often does. Is Scorsese celebrating these heathens? If so, is he implicating us in the celebration? These are tricky questions and provocative issues. They matter, and they make the movie matter. By pushing its Belfort to the background and focusing on a conflicted young man trying to please his dad (the great character actor Ron Rifkin), Boiler Room plays a combustible subject safe.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:38 pm to trillhog
it was a shittier version of boiler room
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:40 pm to trillhog
Same source material, to a large degree.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:40 pm to trillhog
Pretty sure they are based on te same company sooo
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:43 pm to sicboy
yeah , i see boiler room being way deeper and having many more layers and more character depth than wolf of wall street. Wolf of Wall Street is Blow, its an Entourage episode (pick one), it's a shiny toy, nothing like boiler room.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:44 pm to trillhog
haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street yet, but Boiler Room was great.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:45 pm to trillhog
And the big difference being that they focus on one of the brokers instead of the head man. Haven't seen Wolf (probably won't), so I can't speak to that one. Boiler Room was pretty good from what I remember.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:45 pm to trillhog
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Was Wolf of Wall Street a knockoff of Boiler Room?
I don't know, but it was easily one of the most overrated movies to come through Hollywood in a while IMO.
It was good, but just that...good. Nowhere near awesome IMO, and certainly not "best picture" awesome or "top movies of 2013 list" good.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:46 pm to trillhog
A fricking entourage episode?
And even if it were Blow, Blow is infinitely better than Boiler Room.
And even if it were Blow, Blow is infinitely better than Boiler Room.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:50 pm to trillhog
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yeah , i see boiler room being way deeper and having many more layers and more character depth than wolf of wall street. Wolf of Wall Street is Blow, its an Entourage episode (pick one), it's a shiny toy, nothing like boiler room.
you understand nothing
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:53 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Again, I haven't seen Wolf, but isn't Boiler Room just inspired by those stories, while Wolf is an actual telling of Belfort's story? If that's the case, really no point in comparing the two.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:59 pm to sicboy
I just felt like Wolf was kind of like the first Hangover, everybody jumps on it b/c people are doing drugs and there tittys and what not. Take away all that and it's pretty lame. Boiler room has the tension of the guy and his dad, the tension of the new money guys vs the old money, an interacial relationship.. ect ect... way more of a "film" imo
also Ribisi's hustle as a gambling house made his rise more believable.
also Ribisi's hustle as a gambling house made his rise more believable.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:07 pm to trillhog
I view Wolf of Wall Street as a comedy. And I laughed my arse off the whole movie. So that alone makes it a good movie.
I havent seen Boiler Room yet, might need to check it out.
I havent seen Boiler Room yet, might need to check it out.
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