Watched Incredible Hulk (08) last night

If there is one character the MCU has absolutely destroyed, it's Bruce Banner/Incredible Hulk.

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Except for kryptonite he is essentially immortal.

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Suseptible to magic

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this Hulk would beat the shite out of Ruffalos

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I was cheering for the bullet.

hated the fact that they pussified Hulk. Avengers hulk and Age of Ultron hulk doesn't get man handled by Thanos and go into hiding.

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Supes is also susceptible to telepathy/mind control.

The problem with Superman is a frickton of his abilities are viewed through the lens of the Golden and even Silver Age of comics where writers would just create new powers for him or power him up enough to defeat his opponents. When the DCU has been rebooted, they try to power him back down but various writers end up ramping him up as he gets used to combat cosmic-level entities.

This is more obvious with top-tier characters (Thor, Wonder Woman, etc) but it's happened up and down the roster of Marvel and DC characters.

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Power creep (and a lack of understanding physics by writers) is always a problem.

My "favorite" examples of writers trying to make their characters seem powerful without realizing how absurd it makes them:

1. The Flash stated that he thinks in the span of attoseconds. For those not familiar, attoseconds are a measurement of time so small they are used to measure how long it takes light to travel from one end of an ATOM to the other end. Or as Wikipedia states it so well:

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An attosecond is to a second, as a second is to approximately 31.69 billion years.

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If a person could think that fast, there's no way in hell anyone's ever hitting that person, and no mental hurdle would exist. Don't know how to perform brain surgery? In the time it takes me to write this post, the Flash has learned every medical discipline known to man and used the remaining time to enjoy his latte.


2. The Hulk (the Cho version) hit the moon with a force equal to 123.2 on the Richter scale. The writers forgot that the Richter scale is logarithmic (meaning that for each whole integer, you increase by a factor of 10 - so a magnitude 3 earthquake has 100x the energy of a magnitude 1 earthquake, and so on). The problem with this number is that the energy it would generate is 10^194 joules, which is equal to 10^177 mass energy - which is many magnitudes greater than the mass of the universe (10^52). The Hulk just erased our Solar System (and eventually will create a Big Crunch along with enough heat to probably create another Big Bang).

The fact that the MOON is still standing, much less everything else (though to be fair it would not propagate faster than light, so it'd take 50-100 thousand years to fully wipe out the Milky Way, etc.) means that the writers had no fricking clue what they were talking about.

On a side note, the Hulk also once punched and destroyed an "asteroid twice the size of Earth" - writers don't understand that anything that big will, but virtue of gravity, become spherical.

3. Superman once punched the "Shaper of Worlds" and left this crater:


Considering the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs left this crater:

Suffice it to say, Superman just killed everyone on the planet.

4. Thor - his list is nearly as bad as Superman's, but also wildly inconsistent. Sometimes he can sit inside the Sun for extended periods of time; other times he can't.

So, yeah...

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While a good origin movie, especially given the shite we have now, MCU does not know how to handle Hulk and I don’t know if they ever will

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They are too afraid to make him the monster that he is. It's a shame, because an honest portrayal of Hulk would dominate the theaters.

Norton is so much better than Ruffalo.

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Superman is the reason that Batman is the greatest comic hero.

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Without Superman there would never have been a Batman.

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He is human and must overcome that weakness

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And Superman is someone whose godlike powers are matched only by his morality and humility. Every day for him is spent trying to control his powers in a world that is, to him, made of tissue paper. As skrayper mentioned, the real problem with Superman is writers not understanding how to write him without backdoor super-Saiyan'ing him to defeat an enemy.

Some of the consistently best writing I've ever seen for him was, surprisingly, from the CW show Superman & Lois. I enjoyed it because for a character like him, the heroics are only part of his struggles. The show focused a lot more on his struggles balancing heroics, work and family (his dealing with Lois' cancer was a really great touch).