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Why Snape Cannot Be Black
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:41 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:41 am
So this guy is being eyed as Severus Snape in the new Harry Potter.
This casting will be awful for the series and not because its a race swap. Personally, I don't care if they swap the race of a character as long as the character remains the same at its core. But the character of Snape is a special case.
Harry could be black. Dumbledore could be played by Morgan Freeman and I would be a hundred percent in. Same goes for just about any other character because it doesn't change the character or the story.
Snape, however, cannot be a minority for very practical reasons. Snape's entire character arc is dependent on him being ostracized and bullied for his physical appearance as a child and teenager. If Snape is a minority, it becomes less about petty bullying and becomes overt racism. If they choose to ignore his race, that's another problem. Also, how people in the series -- especially James, Remus, Sirius and Peter -- treat him is viewed in an entirely different light. The perception of those characters is altered. The children being afraid of him? Now, that's coded as racist.
It fundamentally alters the story in a way that no other character can.
I honestly cannot believe that no one considered the implications of casting a minority as a character like Snape.
This casting will be awful for the series and not because its a race swap. Personally, I don't care if they swap the race of a character as long as the character remains the same at its core. But the character of Snape is a special case.
Harry could be black. Dumbledore could be played by Morgan Freeman and I would be a hundred percent in. Same goes for just about any other character because it doesn't change the character or the story.
Snape, however, cannot be a minority for very practical reasons. Snape's entire character arc is dependent on him being ostracized and bullied for his physical appearance as a child and teenager. If Snape is a minority, it becomes less about petty bullying and becomes overt racism. If they choose to ignore his race, that's another problem. Also, how people in the series -- especially James, Remus, Sirius and Peter -- treat him is viewed in an entirely different light. The perception of those characters is altered. The children being afraid of him? Now, that's coded as racist.
It fundamentally alters the story in a way that no other character can.
I honestly cannot believe that no one considered the implications of casting a minority as a character like Snape.
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:16 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Full on rewrite of the source material.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:32 am to PurpleandGold Motown
If you don't think kids can bully kids without being racist that's kinda on you.
I went to a school with mixed races and kids were bullied for all sorts of reasons and it didn't make the bully a racist.
They will have ample opportunity in a tv show to give them something about Snape to pick on that isn't race.. Hell just give him a mole or have a booger hanging out his nose.
I went to a school with mixed races and kids were bullied for all sorts of reasons and it didn't make the bully a racist.
They will have ample opportunity in a tv show to give them something about Snape to pick on that isn't race.. Hell just give him a mole or have a booger hanging out his nose.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 2:38 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:50 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Personally, I don't care if they swap the race of a character
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:56 am to Corinthians420
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I went to a school with mixed races and kids were bullied for all sorts of reasons and it didn't make the bully a racist.
We are talking about a TV show that understandably will paint in broad strokes. In 2024, it will be used which will fundamentally change other characters' motivations and the audiences perception. Every other character is fine to swap but this one will be very tricky, and I don't have confidence they can pull it off. It's taking on a burden you don't have to. Sirius Black being black doesn't matter. McGonagall being black doesn't matter. Snape does.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:44 am to Corinthians420
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If you don't think kids can bully kids without being racist that's kinda on you.
I went to a school with mixed races and kids were bullied for all sorts of reasons and it didn't make the bully a racist.
They will have ample opportunity in a tv show to give them something about Snape to pick on that isn't race.. Hell just give him a mole or have a booger hanging out his nose.
You live in a fantasy world.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:00 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Snape, however, cannot be a minority for very practical reasons. Snape's entire character arc is dependent on him being ostracized and bullied for his physical appearance as a child and teenager. If Snape is a minority, it becomes less about petty bullying and becomes overt racism. If they choose to ignore his race, that's another problem. Also, how people in the series -- especially James, Remus, Sirius and Peter -- treat him is viewed in an entirely different light. The perception of those characters is altered. The children being afraid of him? Now, that's coded as racist.
That will be a feature, not a bug of the movie.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:06 am to PurpleandGold Motown
You’re racist for even questioning a black man having an opportunity to be in this production! In all seriousness Adam Driver kind of looks like Snape if we’re going off the looks of the original one
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:22 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Full on rewrite of the source material.
Would Rowling do this? She is the executive producer - she is driving this.
If this happens, I have a working theory (well I just thought of it this morning - lol):
What if Harry is mixed himself, with his father or mother being black? The racism knob would be turned down for sure with Snape being black. With Hermione certainly being black, she may can do what she wished she had done (and has been quoted on) in the book series - put them together.
It could work, maybe . . .
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 7:24 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:57 am to Bham4Tide
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What if Harry is mixed himself, with his father or mother being black? The racism knob would be turned down for sure with Snape being black. With Hermione certainly being black, she may can do what she wished she had done (and has been quoted on) in the book series - put them together.
James would have to be black, otherwise you have some rich athletic white kid constantly blasting an outcast geeky black kid. You would have to spend way too much time trying to work out these motivations in what is supposed to be just a quick limited meaning past interactions that cause current motivations.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 8:00 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:12 am to PurpleandGold Motown
This is actually a really good point.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:17 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Harry being black would be more acceptable story-wise than Snape being black.
Think about it. Harry Potter is popular in the black community because so many see themselves in his home life.
Think about it. Harry Potter is popular in the black community because so many see themselves in his home life.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:21 am to PurpleandGold Motown
The funny thing is I bet they insist on British actors though
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:22 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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If Snape is a minority, it becomes less about petty bullying and becomes overt racism
You just have woke writers an exact reason to cast this guy.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:35 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Harry could be black. Dumbledore could be played by Morgan Freeman and I would be a hundred percent in. Same goes for just about any other character because it doesn't change the character or the story. Snape, however, cannot be a minority for very practical reasons. Snape's entire character arc is dependent on him being ostracized and bullied for his physical appearance as a child and teenager. If Snape is a minority, it becomes less about petty bullying and becomes overt racism. If they choose to ignore his race, that's another problem. Also, how people in the series -- especially James, Remus, Sirius and Peter -- treat him is viewed in an entirely different light. The perception of those characters is altered. The children being afraid of him? Now, that's coded as racist.
Alternatively it prevents them trying to make the death eaters into some sort of race thing in addition to the magic thing like they said the first order is a “white supremacy organization”
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 8:39 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:53 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Snape Cannot Be Black
JK Rowling:
She is pretty well known for being very vocal about stuff she is against, and she hasn't said anything about this casting.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:07 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Snape, however, cannot be a minority for very practical reasons. Snape's entire character arc is dependent on him being ostracized and bullied for his physical appearance as a child and teenager. If Snape is a minority, it becomes less about petty bullying and becomes overt racism. If they choose to ignore his race, that's another problem. Also, how people in the series -- especially James, Remus, Sirius and Peter -- treat him is viewed in an entirely different light. The perception of those characters is altered. The children being afraid of him? Now, that's coded as racist.
All of this is obviously correct. If there is any character in this story that is defined by his appearance, it is Snape. The only other character’s actual appearance who may be brought up as much is Umbridge.
This casting needs to change quickly. Adam Driver is a very, very obvious casting choice here. Just go ahead and hire him.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:08 am to Corinthians420
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If you don't think kids can bully kids without being racist that's kinda on you.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:11 am to OMLandshark
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Adam Driver is a very, very obvious casting choice here. Just go ahead and hire him.
They aren't paying Adam Driver the amount it would require to make him commit to 7 seasons
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:44 am to Corinthians420
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Corinthians420
Did you push up your glasses and say "Ackchyually" to yourself before typing?
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