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re: Why Snape Cannot Be Black
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:53 am to Dam Guide
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:53 am to Dam Guide
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people wanted a faithful adaptation and it's getting clear we aren't going to get that.
they swapped Snape's age around in the movies and I still enjoyed them. I'm sure I can do the same with this small change.
what does this change that isn't superficial if I don't believe James is a racist?
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 11:56 am
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:56 am to Corinthians420
Lmao, more dishonest stupidity from you.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:57 am to dupergreenie
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Black…..skin color….. physical appearance……this seems like a very easy thing to do.
Really? How well do you think Snape being ostracized and bullied because he’s black is going to land?
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:57 am to Corinthians420
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they swapped Snape's age around in the movies and I still enjoyed them. I'm sure I can do the same with this small change.
Potterheads had a lot of problems with the movies, we don't want or need another let's make all these changes it doesn't matter series type situation. There is no point to doing it again so soon if you are just going to do another not faithful adaptation.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:00 pm to HuskyPanda
Sirius would work well as a black guy IMO.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:03 pm to Havoc
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How well do you think Snape being ostracized and bullied because he’s black is going to land?
He wasnt bullied because he was black. He wasnt even black and was bullied.
Do you mean how is snape being bullied despite being black going to land? Are black people exempt from schoolyard bullying? Certainly werent where i grew up
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:12 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Full on rewrite of the source material.
Which apparently Rowling is ok with since she's pretty heavily involved in these things. If she thinks those are the changes that need to happen for the series, it's not really my place to say how her content should be handled.
It'd be different if they were doing this without her knowledge or blessing.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:18 pm to Havoc
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Really? How well do you think Snape being ostracized and bullied because he’s black is going to land?
I don’t think what I was trying to say translates over text. The argument is that the original version was bullied for his physical appearance. If he is the only black guy in the story it’s not a far fetched leap. I’m not saying that it’s going to land and it likely won’t. But the argument that the OG was bullied for physical appearance is the same as being bullied for being black (which is a physical appearance) isn’t a good one.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:10 pm to Corinthians420
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Fans upset over Snape casting
This one change will likely doom this show. I know I won't be watching.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:30 pm to dupergreenie
Gotcha.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:48 pm to Corinthians420
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they swapped Snape's age around in the movies
Did they? He was a classmate of James Potter's in both the books and the movies, iirc.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:52 pm to imjustafatkid
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Did they? He was a classmate of James Potter's in both the books and the movies, iirc.
Yeah and they died when they were 21 so he wouldve been in his mid 30s when harry was at hogwarts.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:05 pm to Corinthians420
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Yeah and they died when they were 21 so he wouldve been in his mid 30s when harry was at hogwarts.
And...you think he's a time traveler in the movies or something?
I get that the actor was older, but they didn't change the timeline or story to make it work. They cast a fantastic Snape for the films.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:16 pm to imjustafatkid
He looks nothing like a mid 30s Snape as described in the books would look. He looks 60. It was fine because its just a superficial change like changing skin color.
He was excellent. Details can be changed and still work great.
He was excellent. Details can be changed and still work great.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:47 pm to Corinthians420
Wizards age like milk. Just look at 21 year old Lily and James
Posted on 4/18/25 at 4:02 pm to Corinthians420
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He looks 60
Nah. He doesnt.
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It was fine because its just a superficial change like changing skin color.
No, it was fine because it didn't require them to change anything about the story. Snape simply "looking older" (your opinion, not mine) changed nothing about the story at all.
By contrast, this race swap is a change that requires a complete change to the story, which is the point being made by everyone in this thread.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 4:20 pm to imjustafatkid
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Snape simply "looking older" (your opinion, not mine) changed nothing about the story at all
You think that guy looks mid 30s?
Also its not an opinion, he was 57 when the first of the 8 films released.
Him looking darker wont change the story either
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 4/18/25 at 5:12 pm to Corinthians420
I'm siding with fat kid on this one. Making him black will have racial undertones whether they intend to have it or not.
It's no different from if they did a live action Dragon ball movie and race swapped Goku to a black man. How will audiences feel when he transforms into a giant monkey? Yes it is what happens in the story and happens because of his alien biology but having a black man turn into a monkey in 2025 would not fly over well. Same thing here.
It's no different from if they did a live action Dragon ball movie and race swapped Goku to a black man. How will audiences feel when he transforms into a giant monkey? Yes it is what happens in the story and happens because of his alien biology but having a black man turn into a monkey in 2025 would not fly over well. Same thing here.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 5:17 pm to Corinthians420
Everyone knows that evil magic ages a person.
Sheesh.
50/50 chance that James, not Lily, is the focus of Snape's affection.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 5:52 pm to Corinthians420
No one is questioning the age of the actor playing Snape. What they are saying is that the age did not matter. When the original actor of Dumbledore died and he was replaced by someone younger, it never changed the story.
Changing the race ( by the way not just a superficial change like changing hair or eye color) completely changes the story line. Seeing a privileged white boy bully and harass a black kid bc he is "different" will have racial undertones. Or if seeing a black kid with a white girl and that girl family does not want her to see him bc he is "different" will have implied racial undertones.
Like I mentioned in another thread, black fans of HP are saying this could change the perception of James and Harry. Snape background is not explored until book 5. So leading up to season 5, Harry does not trust Snape bc he thinks he is "evil". I doubt this series gets to season 5. So if they make any changes to show that Snape was bullied for something else or Harry trusts Snape, then yes they made changes to the story.
Changing the race ( by the way not just a superficial change like changing hair or eye color) completely changes the story line. Seeing a privileged white boy bully and harass a black kid bc he is "different" will have racial undertones. Or if seeing a black kid with a white girl and that girl family does not want her to see him bc he is "different" will have implied racial undertones.
Like I mentioned in another thread, black fans of HP are saying this could change the perception of James and Harry. Snape background is not explored until book 5. So leading up to season 5, Harry does not trust Snape bc he thinks he is "evil". I doubt this series gets to season 5. So if they make any changes to show that Snape was bullied for something else or Harry trusts Snape, then yes they made changes to the story.
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