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Alex Van Halen Says David Lee Roth Refused to Pay Tribute to Eddie Van Halen On Nixed Tour

Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:32 pm
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THERE WAS A MOMENT WHEN it seemed like Van Halen, the band, might survive the death of its guitarist. Rumors of a planned post-Eddie tour, with Alex back on drums behind frontman David Lee Roth, were true. Shortly before the shooting-range incident, Alex and Roth began early rehearsals for that tour, with two musicians from the singer’s solo band serving as “seat fillers.” The idea was to eventually bring in Joe Satriani on guitar, and maybe even original bassist Michael Anthony, who hadn’t played with Van Halen since 2004, after which Alex and Eddie replaced him with Eddie’s then-teenage son, Wolfgang Van Halen. But in those early rehearsals, Alex started feeling numbness, peripheral neuropathy, especially in his feet. He wondered if it was an “omen from above,” a warning not to do the tour.

The plans ended up collapsing anyway, even before his vertebrae did. After several phone conversations with Queen’s Brian May about how that band carries on without Freddie Mercury, Alex came away with ideas about how to proceed. “The thing that broke the camel’s back, and I can be honest about this now,” Alex says, “was I said, ‘Dave, at some point, we have to have a very overt — not a bowing — but an acknowledgment of Ed in the gig. If you look at how Queen does it, they show old footage.’ And the moment I said we gotta acknowledge Ed, Dave frickin’ popped a fuse.… The vitriol that came out was unbelievable.”

As Alex tells it, Roth simply refused to pay tribute to his brother, found the very idea offensive, for reasons he can’t comprehend. Alex was … displeased. “I’m from the street,” he says. “‘You talk to me like that, motherfricker, I’m gonna beat your fricking brains out. You got it?’ And I mean that. And that’s how it ended.” Alex remains baffled. “It’s just, my God. It’s like I didn’t know him anymore. I have nothing but the utmost respect for his work ethic and all that. But, Dave, you gotta work as a community, motherfricker. It’s not you alone anymore.” (Roth declined to comment.)

Alex has few regrets about the aborted tour, which he would have been physically unable to do, anyway. “It’s too bad on one hand, but it’s fine on the other,” he says. “Because now, in retrospect, playing the old songs is not really paying tribute to anybody. That’s just like a jukebox, in my opinion.… To find a replacement for Ed? It’s just not the same.” Van Halen’s second singer, Sammy Hagar, recently went on tour with Satriani and Anthony, playing those old songs. Alex won’t even utter Hagar’s name. “The heart and the soul and the creativity and the magic was Dave, Ed, Mike, and me,” he says. He’s at least as cutting in his book: “We had a lot of other singers over the years,” he writes, in his only acknowledgment of the Van Hagar era.

Truth is, Alex got along with David Lee Roth better than anyone else in the band ever did. After Eddie’s death, Alex’s first call was to Roth, and even after that rehearsal blowup, they’re still in touch. Roth recently fired some shots at Wolfgang, Alex’s nephew, calling him “this fricking kid,” but Alex laughs that off. “To me, it’s a sign of respect,” he says, “that he actually thinks that Wolfie’s on the same level as the old master Dave, right? The other thing is that Wolf can easily take care of himself. It’s not a problem.”

He’s well aware Eddie took a major step toward the destruction of the band in 1982 when he agreed to play the guitar solo on Michael Jackson’s “Beat It,” which, in turn, led Roth to pursue his own solo ventures. Alex believed creativity was finite, and that they owed all of it to their own band. He told Eddie not to do it — if anything, he would have preferred to have Jackson guest on a Van Halen album. His brother went to the studio anyway, unleashing every fretboard-scorching trick he knew in a solo that became even better known than anything he’d played with the band. Two years later, Thriller blocked Van Halen’s 1984 from the top of the charts.

The brothers argued about Eddie’s musical infidelity for years, and truth be told, Alex is still furious 42 years later. “Why would you lend your talents to Michael Jackson? I just don’t fricking get it,” he says. “And the funny part was that Ed fibbed his way out of it by saying, ‘Oh, who knows that kid anyway?’ You made the mistake! Fess up. Don’t add insult to injury by acting stupid.”


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Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:48 pm to
Honestly, it a goddamn miracle they were able to stick together long enough to put out 6 albums with that original lineup. They all seem hard to work with.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:02 pm to
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“I’m from the street,” he says. “‘You talk to me like that, motherfricker, I’m gonna beat your fricking brains out. You got it?’ And I mean that.
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
9590 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:11 pm to
They all seem like assholes
The Sammy Hagar hate is still amazing after this long - I know Roth was the ultimate frontman, but Hagar seems genuinely nice guy and what an incredible singer
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:18 pm to
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Hagar seems genuinely nice guy and what an incredible singer
he is…everyone else loves him and he plays with everybody who wants to play. Plus he’s fricking LOADED from his business interests. I have no idea why Alex of all people holds a grudge against Hagar as Hagar made them a lot of money.

anyway…Michael Anthony of the original band seems like the only one who’s not a raging douchebag
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:24 pm to
Is it ok if I dislike all of them?
Posted by Red Boarman
Member since Oct 2023
546 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:37 pm to
They all come off as pricks.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22902 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:41 pm to
I'm not the biggest VH fan, but the thought of even touring without EVH seems pointless to me.. who wants that?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15887 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:50 pm to
I saw that to, Dave really is an egotistical jerk it seems. Those guys just can't get along to save their lives, totally dysfunctional.

Another thing I just read today, Alex said he was thinking about finishing some of their uncompleted songs using Robert Plant's voice via AI. That sounds kinda nuts to me, do you guys think Plant would go for that? I'm doubtful myself


Alex Van Halen Unfinished Songs
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25743 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:02 pm to
Great band, but three out of the four members were assholes.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5703 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:03 pm to
I didn't get the vitriol from him and Dave about the Beat It solo. It's one solo. A damn good one, but it's not like he abandoned VH afterwards.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5703 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:05 pm to
Eddie was not a prick for the most part. Especially when he was sober. Most everybody said he was a nice guy and sweet to be around.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75784 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:54 pm to
Alex and Roth hated each other.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:29 pm to
Van Halen died when DLR left.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
14254 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:18 pm to
Alex is a POS and really the person responsible for most of the band’s issues.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12056 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:21 pm to
His voice is totally shot so who really cares and i agree not having Eddie is the worst part. Have you ever heard a live Van Halen song where he sounds good?
Posted by Mr Make Believe
Member since Jun 2020
367 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:24 pm to
Glad it fell through as it would have been a train wreck. I am fine with my memories of the 1984 tour.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36782 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:47 pm to
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Eddie was not a prick for the most part. Especially when he was sober. Most everybody said he was a nice guy and sweet to be around.
That wasn't my takeaway from the book I read.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92418 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:16 pm to
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Eddie was not a prick for the most part. Especially when he was sober.


Unfortunately, he wasn't sober very much from 1969 until his death.

#Jokingbutnotjoking

He was a great guitarist. He was, maybe, a decent dad at times. The rest? Probably below average at best.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
23271 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:49 pm to
Showing my age here but I saw VH (was a High School senior) in Birmingham with the 5150 tour - it was amazing and so much fun. Sammy and Eddie climbed to the top of the lights. Unforgettable. Loved the 80s.

I follow Hagar and wanted to see his show with Anthony, etc. but couldn’t ever get to one. I heard it is incredible. Hagar seems like an incredibly nice man - who gives back to his fans. He talks a lot about loving being a part of the band but that the brothers were just . . .

I love the older VH classics with Roth, and I get the love (which I have as well), but Hagar will always be my fav. and his vocals are next level.
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