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Great documentary about the group Chicago on Amazon Prime

Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:47 pm
Posted by midnight1961
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:47 pm
Really good documentary about the group Chicago on Amazon Prime.

It's called Now More Than Ever: The History of Chicago.

Terry Kath was so talented. Such a shame he died so young.

Great guitarist, singer and songwriter.



Color My World
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:53 pm to
Terry Kath may be the most underappreciated musician of all time.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:55 pm to
Just so weird how they went from this hardcore horns and technical band to a GOAT power ballad '80's operation. I can't think of anything like it other than maybe the way Genesis went from an alt band to pop rock.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted by TigerBR1111
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:27 pm to
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Terry Kath may be the most underappreciated musician of all time.


Hendrix was a huge fan. People that know talent knew.
Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2434 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:48 am to
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Just so weird how they went from this hardcore horns and technical band to a GOAT power ballad '80's operation


There's a documentary that talks about that, "David Foster Off the Record", it's pretty good. It's not only about Chicago but other groups/artists as well.

It was a strategy business wise, since Chicago's XIV & XV flopped back to back in the late 70's/early 80's, their record label dumped them.

The band got signed by Warner Bros. and David Foster became their new producer. He decided from a marketing point of view that in order for them to make a comeback, they needed a change of sound. When Chicago 16 & 17 were released, the horn section was minimized and became more of a pop music act. Since those 2 records were successful and several singles charted well, they became a standard during the 1980's. It was all a business decision and the change was almost forced in order for the group to stay relevant for an additional decade and a half.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:58 am to
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to a GOAT power ballad '80's operation


That "Look Away" shite was some of the worst music the 80s had to offer.
Posted by BasilFawlty
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/15/22 at 2:05 pm to
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horn section was minimized

James Pankow has stated that he, Lee Loughnane, and Walt Parazaider would often show up at the studio and have nothing to do. Foster had cancelled the horns or worse, brought in other players to do their parts.
Foster might be a successful producer (as he will tell you himself), but he is a huge asshoe and comes across as a massive douche.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:00 pm to
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James Pankow has stated that he, Lee Loughnane, and Walt Parazaider would often show up at the studio and have nothing to do. Foster had cancelled the horns or worse, brought in other players to do their parts.
Foster might be a successful producer (as he will tell you himself), but he is a huge asshoe and comes across as a massive douche.


I watched that Foster documentary. Basically the other Chicago band members aside from Peter Cetera hated the music, but they said frick it because they made boatloads of money on those power ballad albums.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32727 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
That strategy appears to have paid off for a few bands. I think of Heart. They were a quality band in the 70's. Good guitar work by not just Nancy Wilson, but also the other guy ( I forget his name) then they went power ballad...What About Love,etc....ruined them and it no longer was Heart it was the Wilson sisters and really, it was Ann Wilson. Same with Genesis and Whitesnake.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13651 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:31 pm to
They had about 6 or 7 good songs in the early to mid 70s. After about '75, it was a crap show.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18086 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:06 pm to
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They had about 6 or 7 good songs in the early to mid 70s. After about '75, it was a crap show.
This is how I feel about 'em. They kicked a lot of arse on their first however many albums. Once they went power ballad I have zero use for them. Such excellent musicians and their powers were used for evil!
Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2434 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:48 pm to
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James Pankow has stated that he, Lee Loughnane, and Walt Parazaider would often show up at the studio and have nothing to do.


Well look at the 'You're The Inspiration' video. You have R Lamm playing the piano and Pankow & Walter playing the keyboards, and the other dude reading a newspaper. How many dudes on keyboard do you really need? lol Like somebody else said, they had no option but to go in the Pop music direction, to make tons of money and keep their careers alive.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:52 pm to
If there is an "eternity soundtrack" in Hell, David Foster will be the producer on a lot of the tracks and they'll be written by Diane Warren.
Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2434 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:52 am to
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Foster might be a successful producer (as he will tell you himself), but he is a huge asshoe and comes across as a massive douche


Foster is a successful producer and musician no matter if you love him or hate him. Mostly CEO's, bosses, or those high in the corporate ladder are aholes and douchbags. They control people by being that way. The fact that people hate him for his persona or x reasons, you cannot take the fact away that he is a brilliant producer.

Thanks to him Celine Dion, Groban & Buble have great careers and Bocelli is known to the American audience thanks to him. Google it.
Posted by TigerBR1111
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Member since Sep 2014
7592 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:45 am to
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Mostly CEO's, bosses, or those high in the corporate ladder are aholes and douchbags. They control people by being that way.


As someone who has worked 40 years in the corporate world with high level leadership I can say that is not a true statement. Some are limited to that style of leadership/management but not most.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 11:08 am
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