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Times of Trouble by Temple of the Dog
Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:39 am
Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:39 am
First off I love this song and think it's beautiful. I understand it's about Andrew Wood and his heroin addiction but I have a question about one lyric in the song. What does it mean when he says " I saw you swinging, I saw you swinging your mother's sword"?
I also find it sad that Chris Cornnel couldn't break through his times of trouble. That man could sing.
I also find it sad that Chris Cornnel couldn't break through his times of trouble. That man could sing.
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:00 am to Brazos
Good question. Might be one of those things that would totally click if you knew Andrew personally. No telling.
Now I have to listen to Call me a Dog again...
Now I have to listen to Call me a Dog again...
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:25 am to Brazos
Amazing talent. That album was a side project. And it's incredible.
Hunger Strike is probably a weaker song or just overplayed it just got all the love because he let Vedder half the vocals with him.
The lyric from the op may have been some personal story? Some teen memory or something. Or maybe something needed to rhyme? Lol
We still need a gofundme page for Vedder. He needs to be wrapped in Kevlar and have security around him to keep him from anything stronger than wine.
Hunger Strike is probably a weaker song or just overplayed it just got all the love because he let Vedder half the vocals with him.
The lyric from the op may have been some personal story? Some teen memory or something. Or maybe something needed to rhyme? Lol
We still need a gofundme page for Vedder. He needs to be wrapped in Kevlar and have security around him to keep him from anything stronger than wine.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:51 am to Brazos
That intro is fire
Posted on 6/30/18 at 2:39 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Amazing talent. That album was a side project. And it's incredible.
I look at it as more than that over time - it was the birth of Pearl Jam - they just didn't appreciate that at the beginning of the process. So, with that perspective it makes a little more sense.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 6/30/18 at 2:56 pm to Brazos
Wooden Jesus is my fav off that album. They don’t make rock like that anymore.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 3:28 pm to SelaTiger
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Wooden Jesus
Posted on 6/30/18 at 3:38 pm to cj35
Best album of the grunge era, IMO
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:36 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
Hunger Strike is probably a weaker song or just overplayed it just got all the love because he let Vedder half the vocals with him.
Little of both. Vedder's baritone and Cornell's screech laid on top of each other, though, still gives me chills.
This passage from "Say Hello 2 Heaven" just breaks me. Cornell's voice has so much pain and love in it.
I never wanted to write these words down for you
with the pages of phrases of all the things we'll never do
So I blow out the candle
and I put you to bed
Since you can't say to me now
how the dogs broke your bones
there's just one thing left to be said
So say hello to heaven
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:18 pm to TigerstuckinMS
welp, guess this is the Album i’m listening to tonight
Posted on 7/1/18 at 1:25 am to Nutriaitch
Bought it on vinyl last weekend. Timeless album and classic for sure. Such a moving record.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:05 am to Ace Midnight
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I look at it as more than that over time - it was the birth of Pearl Jam - they just didn't appreciate that at the beginning of the process. So, with that perspective it makes a little more sense.
It was Cornell's side project. Pearl Jam was already going. At least if the other guys are to be believed, they had already hit the road with Vedder and were playing his songs. He was their guy. Wood's death was the birth of Pearl Jam. They didn't know it yet.
I am nitpicking though. Cornell's friend OD's and from that he cranks out a damned album. I'm sure he had a couple already written or half written, but Soundgarden is rolling and he's got so much material that he can stop and give these songs to the TOD project. It could be released today and I feel people would say "holy shite who is this?"
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:10 am to Brazos
Never have met anybody who likes "Your Savior" as much as I do. That's always been my favorite song on it.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 5:08 pm to Brazos
I think "mother's sword" refers to something that can kill you. Your mother birthed you, your mother's sword can end you.
"I saw you swinging" means that he was doing something that could take his own life.
My impression is that while the song is apparently inspired by or is about Wood's death, it seems to me it is also about not committing suicide, given the lyrics "you gotta hold onto your time until you break through these times of trouble"
That is how I chose to interpret it when I was going through a rough patch. It helped. May have saved me.
"I saw you swinging" means that he was doing something that could take his own life.
My impression is that while the song is apparently inspired by or is about Wood's death, it seems to me it is also about not committing suicide, given the lyrics "you gotta hold onto your time until you break through these times of trouble"
That is how I chose to interpret it when I was going through a rough patch. It helped. May have saved me.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:10 pm to Rain Rathibon
Wood's parents were both alcoholic and certifiable nut jobs. Could refer to an actual sword.
Malfunkshun-The Andrew Wood story is worth a watch.
Malfunkshun-Andrew Wood
Malfunkshun-The Andrew Wood story is worth a watch.
Malfunkshun-Andrew Wood
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 2/6/21 at 2:27 am to Brazos
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This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 2:34 am
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:25 am to Rain Rathibon
When the spoon is hot
And the needles sharp
And you drift away
And the needles sharp
And you drift away
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:09 pm to Marciano1
Yeah, but I think it is more than just drugs. I think the song is about drugs and depression/suicide/giving up.
"Don't try to do it
Don't try to kill your time
Yeah, you might do it
Then you can't change your mind
You've got a hold on to your time
Till your break through these times of trouble"
And
"I saw you swinging
Yeah, swinging your mother's sword
And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you're playing but
Sometimes the rules get hard
But if somebody left you out on a ledge
If somebody pushed you over the edge
If somebody loved you and left you for dead
You got to hold on to your time till you break
Through these times of trouble"
"Don't try to do it
Don't try to kill your time
Yeah, you might do it
Then you can't change your mind
You've got a hold on to your time
Till your break through these times of trouble"
And
"I saw you swinging
Yeah, swinging your mother's sword
And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you're playing but
Sometimes the rules get hard
But if somebody left you out on a ledge
If somebody pushed you over the edge
If somebody loved you and left you for dead
You got to hold on to your time till you break
Through these times of trouble"
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