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Cap Projection for next season (2025-2026)
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:19 am
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:19 am
This season is over. We should be focused on how to re-tool and prepare for next season. The salary cap for next season is projected to be at about 155M (with a floor of about 140M). Given that we will be a borderline playoff team, at best. It would be dumb to spend over the 155M line.
For next season we have 9 players under contract for about 158M. We will have a top 5 pick, that will get at least 12M the first year (all listed below).
Zion- 39.5
McCollum- 31
Murray- 32
Jones- 14
Murphy- 25
Missi- 3.5
Alvarado- 4.5
Matkovic- 2
Hawkins- 5
Reeves- 2
Top 5 pick- 12
10 players combining for about 170M. That is letting Ingram walk for nothing (or other expiring deals). We would still have to sign 5 more players, which would put us massively into the tax. We would basically be swapping Ingram for a top 5 pick, which is a huge burden to put on a rookie (plus no Murray for a huge portion of the season).
I believe the reality is to trade McCollum now and get off his deal. Let Ingram walk (or a S&T will limited contracts coming back). They need to shop Zion. He's the only other deal that would dramatically move us back into a responsible cap situation (I'm not trading Murphy and Murray is hurt). If we can turn Zion into 2-3 mid-level deals to fill out our bench/depth, that would be our best option to be somewhat competitive next season and give that lottery pick the best opportunity to grow. Is there any other way?
For next season we have 9 players under contract for about 158M. We will have a top 5 pick, that will get at least 12M the first year (all listed below).
Zion- 39.5
McCollum- 31
Murray- 32
Jones- 14
Murphy- 25
Missi- 3.5
Alvarado- 4.5
Matkovic- 2
Hawkins- 5
Reeves- 2
Top 5 pick- 12
10 players combining for about 170M. That is letting Ingram walk for nothing (or other expiring deals). We would still have to sign 5 more players, which would put us massively into the tax. We would basically be swapping Ingram for a top 5 pick, which is a huge burden to put on a rookie (plus no Murray for a huge portion of the season).
I believe the reality is to trade McCollum now and get off his deal. Let Ingram walk (or a S&T will limited contracts coming back). They need to shop Zion. He's the only other deal that would dramatically move us back into a responsible cap situation (I'm not trading Murphy and Murray is hurt). If we can turn Zion into 2-3 mid-level deals to fill out our bench/depth, that would be our best option to be somewhat competitive next season and give that lottery pick the best opportunity to grow. Is there any other way?
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 6:40 am to brmark70816
We intend to be an over the cap team, just not a luxury tax team
Posted on 2/5/25 at 6:59 am to brmark70816
Without BI, Their, Boston and Green according to Spotrac the pels will have $34,775,718 to the 1st apron. Now if they keep the current roster intact they will need to Sign draft picks and get a center.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:12 am to PELsu
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We intend to be an over the cap team, just not a luxury tax team
Why? What is the benefit?
I believe any reasonable fan can look at our roster and find 50-60M in wasteful spending. Why not tighten that up?
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:18 am to brmark70816
Because it gives us the ability to use bird rights and exceptions, while being under the cap does us nothing if we don’t have enough space under the cap to sign someone significant outright. This is how we have operated for years and will continue to operate because it’s common sense.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:52 am to PELsu
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and will continue to operate because it’s common sense.
So you believe that current management is doing a good job and are managing our roster/cap correctly?
Do you realize we are going to be a 20 win team this year. We are going to spend close to 180M. The Pistons are currently under 130M and they have double the wins. I'm not saying we could duplicate what they are doing, just that we could have the same record we have now, if we spent the same as them. So we basically just wasted 50M. If we don't make a move in the next 24 hours, we potentially lose another 30M. That's 80M in wasted spending. That's a catastrophe..
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:56 am to brmark70816
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believe the reality is to trade McCollum now and get off his deal. Let Ingram walk (or a S&T will limited contracts coming back). They need to shop Zion. He's the only other deal that would dramatically move us back into a responsible cap situation (I'm not trading Murphy and Murray is hurt). If we can turn Zion into 2-3 mid-level deals to fill out our bench/depth, that would be our best option to be somewhat competitive next season and give that lottery pick the best opportunity to grow. Is there any other way?
Easier said than done. I don’t think CJ has positive trade value. The only team I can see trading for him without us having to give assets is Detroit and maybe Orlando.
I was listening to Nate Duncan and John Hollinger’s podcast and they were talking about this exact situation and they brought up the possibility of us waiving and stretching CJ in the summer. We basically would take a 10m dead cap hit the next 3 years. Obviously that would suck but considering how this team will do whatever it can to avoid the tax I think it’s a real possibility
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:00 am to Balsamic_duck
That Dejounte contract is a killer. I doubt he even plays next year so that’s 30m in just dead cap.
The pels should rule him out for all of next year to let him fully heal and we can apply for a disabled player exception. It’s basically a TPE for I think half of whatever the hurt players salary is for that year. So ~15m for Dejounte. We might not even use it but it gives us extra flexibility in trades next year
The pels should rule him out for all of next year to let him fully heal and we can apply for a disabled player exception. It’s basically a TPE for I think half of whatever the hurt players salary is for that year. So ~15m for Dejounte. We might not even use it but it gives us extra flexibility in trades next year
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:06 am to Balsamic_duck
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That Dejounte contract is a killer. I doubt he even plays next year so that’s 30m in just dead cap. The pels should rule him out for all of next year to let him fully heal and we can apply for a disabled player exception. It’s basically a TPE for I think half of whatever the hurt players salary is for that year. So ~15m for Dejounte. We might not even use it but it gives us extra flexibility in trades next year
The max for DPE is the MLE line, so around 13 million.
The problem is you have to prove the player is out for the season before January 15th, and the league won’t allow it as it will have been almost a full calendar year since his injury and he would absolutely be able to play.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:07 am to brmark70816
1. A move will be made …that is a given . This team will not pay the tax .
2. We all know this team sucks
3. The management of this team has also sucked .
4. I do not understand why you are always concerned about Gayle’s money and how it’s spent or saved . This lady was a nobody that was handed a multibillion enterprise . She’ll be okay .
2. We all know this team sucks
3. The management of this team has also sucked .
4. I do not understand why you are always concerned about Gayle’s money and how it’s spent or saved . This lady was a nobody that was handed a multibillion enterprise . She’ll be okay .
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:22 am to brmark70816
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So you believe that current management is doing a good job and are managing our roster/cap correctly? Do you realize we are going to be a 20 win team this year. We are going to spend close to 180M. The Pistons are currently under 130M and they have double the wins. I'm not saying we could duplicate what they are doing, just that we could have the same record we have now, if we spent the same as them. So we basically just wasted 50M. If we don't make a move in the next 24 hours, we potentially lose another 30M. That's 80M in wasted spending. That's a catastrophe..
What are you talking about? Seriously.
If Boston lost Tatum for 2 months Brown for 3 months and KP for the year, along with time missed by Holiday and White?
What would their record be? We could pick any team in the league.
This was for the pelicans a very deep and talented roster. Did it fit?...probably not. Would it have been a playoff team if healthy? Hard to say. At least they were going for it. I have bo idea what you are proposing.
Also this isnt your money. I am so sick of everyone being fantasy gms. You would be fired on the spot if you came in and said hey lets trade zion for 3 mid level guys to fill out the roster. Thats dumb.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:22 am to brmark70816
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Do you realize we are going to be a 20 win team this year. We are going to spend close to 180M. The Pistons are currently under 130M and they have double the wins.
Let’s not act like the Pelicans didn’t trot out the Squadron for the first month and half of the season.
The Pelicans were built to win this year.
Injuries fricked that plan all up.
I believe the Pelicans make a few minor adjustments but stay the course.
The Pelicans may be forced to blow it all up as early as 2026 Offseason.
-No tweaks, full rebuild.
The Pelicans will duck the tax this year.
The Pelicans shoot their shot and possibly are buyers next year at the trade deadline.
When it comes to Ingram I don’t see a team offering the Pelicans what they would want in a trade.
BI best shot to play on a winning team and get paid is with the Pelicans
Does Ingram feel he should be the highest paid player on the Pelicans?
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Is Zion Williamson a better player than Ingram?
Another piece of the cap puzzle going forward is CJ McCollum.
Will CJ McCollum take a sizable payout on his next extension to give the Pelicans flexibility knowing he’ll most likely slide into a 6th man role to end his career with the Pelicans?
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:23 am to six4lsu
Also, learn how the cap actually works. There are youtube videos. Sorry to shite on your post but its just dumb
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:16 am to brmark70816
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10 players combining for about 170M. That is letting Ingram walk for nothing (or other expiring deals). We would still have to sign 5 more players, which would put us massively into the tax.
The 2nd Apron/ Tax line will be $187M...
So you can replace CJ/ BI with matching salary or players + TPE for difference up to $70M and we still would have $20M to the Tax as long as we made moves this year.
You replace CJ/BI's salary this year with 70M and can still sign vet mins + 1st rd pick with 20M.
And we can replace Jose's 4.5M with (2-3) roster spots if we need to.
And even if we go over the Tax up to 10M we can pay it to compete or simply trade someone like Herb if they aren't a difference maker.
The last thing we need to do is let BI walk, keep CJ, and run it back.
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 9:27 am
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