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Jake Madison on what they want Dumars role to be is more of a “high level overview”

Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16526 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:23 pm
He said on his pod today that what he’s been told is:

1) They want him on a high level overview, not in the day to day running of the team.

2) Build out a staff and allow them to run the day to day operations.

3) They could keep someone like Bryson Graham on staff, but he’s hearing things that there maybe a full house cleaning instead.

4) He will likely be bringing in his own people, has alot of connections throughout the league.

Still listening, will update more as I progress, but I must say what I’ve heard so far if he’s not involved in the day to day, it may not be as bad as originally expected.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 6:32 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19934 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:26 pm to
Sounds like they want someone underneath him like Bryson Graham.

In other words, they want him to have the final call on drafting and trading, and they want him to manage Zion, but they want Dumars to find someone like Bryson to actually run the operations.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:49 pm to
Bringing in his own people terrifies me
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25740 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:50 pm to
That’s typically how the POBO role is handled. We just had Griff who was basically the POBO/GM all rolled into one.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54102 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:53 pm to
Right it’s not much different from Griff at all
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12874 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:55 pm to
I can think of one person who absolutely can’t get through to Zion if that’s a priority for this franchise.

Tankmaster Willie
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25740 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:57 pm to
It’s different if Dumars actually allows the GM to make decisions. Sure he’d have to sign off on them like in every organization, but we know it was never our GMs making moves during Griff’s time here.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
11978 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:59 pm to
Most teams only have either a president or a GM. It's usually rare to see a team have both. The top guy is the one who makes the call which in this case will be Dumars. So it's not going to be much different than what Griffin was doing. Maybe if we get lucky, less meddling.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:17 pm to
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more of a “high level overview”


No shite. Didn’t stop the sky skreamers from skreaming
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 7:18 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31385 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:22 pm to
If it's the pobo/gm role like griffin, frick no.

If it's the pobo - hire people and make sure they're working and actually doing their work. Players are doing what they're supposed to be doing. Trainers are doing what they should be doing. Scouts are where they need to be. Etc.

That's fine. My issue is - can't we find someone else? Anyone else?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123489 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:26 pm to
Let’s see the type of guys he brings in.
Posted by Islandboy777
DAUPHIN ISLAND
Member since Jul 2023
2007 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:29 pm to
That guy is a sun shine pumper..

Im bout den Boot Krewe Media baws!
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13583 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:50 pm to
There's a world in which this works out and Dumars is a competent overview and connections guy. Having a widely-respected person who did this role for the whole league and has bigtime leaguewide connections could really fill a major gap for the Pelicans org IF he's limited to that.

The reality is other NBA teams and people around the league see the Pelicans as an isolated anomaly. Gayle is on an island--doesn't have any friends in the NBA and they run stuff through football people. If Dumars is coming in just to bridge that gap and hires a good GM to actually run personnel, he could be a great hire.

That's me gaming out best-case scenario. If he's doing the Griffin role, frick everything.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3876 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

That guy is a sun shine pumper.. Im bout den Boot Krewe Media baws!


He is but he’s been very vocal about how against this Dumars hire he is
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16526 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Let’s see the type of guys he brings in.

Honestly hopefully he keeps Graham on as GM. Our drafting has been good with him at GM/assistant GM

Clean house above Graham, clean house on the training staff (keep the new injury recovery lady), clean house on the coaching staff, everyone else can stay
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11653 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:20 pm to
Joe can bring in his own people if he wants

Prince as Assistant Defensive Coach
Chauncey as Assistant offensive coach
Ben Wallace as the Zion mentor/handler
Rasheed as the PR and Media guy
Posted by BlastOff
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2016
817 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:38 pm to
I don’t care about job titles, who he brings in, etc. If the higher ups can’t see that Willie Green has to go it doesn’t fricking matter. He’s not a X’s and O’s guy, and the players hate him. What a fricking winning combo.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30054 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 5:28 am to
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That guy is a sun shine pumper..

Jake said this would an absolute terrible hire. Dude, at least pretend to know what you're talking about.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
3848 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:01 am to
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He said on his pod today that what he’s been told is:


In other words, Lauscha called and begged him to spin this shite hire so ticket sales do not co minute to crater.

Dumars isn’t taking this job unless he gets to be puppet master, not an overseer. It’s not fun unless you make the personnel choices. I’m out.
Posted by Louisianabound88
BR
Member since Dec 2016
3412 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:30 pm to
More ads than show, I may give this episode a listen tho
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