Name me one thing positive Willie Green has done as coach?

This board is tiresome at times.

No new ground is being broken anymore. It's just old topics masked as new topics.

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Name me one thing positive Willie Green has done as coach?

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1) Lead a team without Zion to the playoffs two years ago.

2) Lead this year's team, at this point in the season, to its best record in six years.

3) Help develop young players such as Trey, Jose, Herb, Dyson, and Naji.


So glad that I could help you this morning.

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There’s just honestly nothing to talk about…

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Yeah, because the team is playing pretty well and people are trained to complain. There are always more new threads after a loss than a win.

What’s worse is most of the negativity people talk about are based on worst case scenario projections of future events. I’m not saying the fears are totally unfounded, but they are exaggerated.

For instance, people act like BI will become an untradeable player on his next deal and that just isn’t true, assuming he stays healthy.

As for Willie, some people sure are convinced he’ll be replaced with an upgrade, which is something you should not be convinced of given this team’s history. Are there coaches out there better than Willie? Yes. Will the Pels hire those coaches. History says no. At best they’ll pick another flavor of average and start the cycle all over again.

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For instance, people act like BI will become an untradeable player on his next deal and that just isn’t true, assuming he stays healthy.

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No one is saying he's untradable. People are saying that if you dont sell high now, you are costing yourself in the future.

You simply cannot pay BI 55 million a year and think this is the best way forward. To put it into even more perspective, IF he was worth that, why people havent been falling over themselves to try and obtain him. (HINT: The NBA doesnt think he's a #1 option either)


Also on the topic of WG, he may be Top 3 in worse coach in the league. He has done absolutely nothing in terms of growth and from whats been said, he doesn't even control a majority of the inner workings of this team. However, the most egregious thing he has done is allowed BI and bros to run unapposed while treating Zion/Trey/Hawk the complete opposite.

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people act like BI will become an untradeable player on his next deal and that just isn’t true

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No one is untradeable, but he will definitely be a negative asset if he gets another max contract.

Our defense has been top 10 in the league this year and last despite the fact we start 4 average or worse defenders. Idk how you explain that except as good coaching.

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The same people that thought Scoot was the right pivot to make to save that future. I’m not doing an “I’m right, you’re wrong” here, I’m on the trade BI train too, I’m just saying our powers of prognostication aren’t as good as we tend to think, so maybe the consequences of not trading BI aren’t as dire as you believe.

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Sunk Cost Fallacy

Definite: the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.
"the sunk-cost fallacy creeps into a lot of major financial decisions"


In the 8 years BI has been in the NBA he has amassed:

1 All Star Appearance

That's it.

The negatives with BI:

- Paying him 55 Million secures the Pelicans being dog shite for a minimum 5 years.

- He in 5 years as a Pelican, flat out refuses to change his shot selection even after someone with more cache (CJ McCollum) has literally done that in a year. Even after folks including myself absolutely shitted on him for playing outside his role.

- He does not pair well with Zion, and anyone who thinks his ceiling is higher than Zion's needs their head examined.

- He is no leader and pretty much runs the front office. So I dont expect him to leave NOLA. I do however expect the same song and dance from a few of you when we fail to meet the mediocre expectations we set every year then ask why we didnt make it.

- He ran off SVG which for the Zion era, was Zion's best coach. Why? Because he didn't like Point Zion due to him being a ball dominant wing and certified ball hog.

- I need to find the stat but were like 4-17 or some shite when BI shoots the ball more than 12 times.


Dont confuse known facts for hate, nor be shocked some folks want him gone.

Anyways this is a WG thread. Ill have my BI Thread up after we dont do anything Thursday

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This may be a topic for another thread, but why is this?

I'm not saying I disagree, but early in the season, there were some games where they looked unstoppable together. I'm just trying to understand.

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Boreggo had more say early on. You barely see his offense now outside of the Utah game when it was clearly on display.

Another game to watch would be the Nuggest IST game where they were running every screen in the book to get shooters open.

Not to mention, again BI has not changed his shot selection and dislikes Point Zion. We also for some reason have consistently done away from ZIon / BI PnR, which again is another coaching issue.

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For instance, people act like BI will become an untradeable player on his next deal and that just isn’t true, assuming he stays healthy.

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The moment he signs the next max, he is a negative value contract.

We see it happen over and over and over on players of BI's ilk in this league. Beal being I believe the most recent example.

Not untraceable, but 100% a negative value contract.


We should not give out a negative value contract as our biggest contract. Name all the teams that had wild success doing something like that.

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This may be a topic for another thread, but why is this?

I'm not saying I disagree, but early in the season, there were some games where they looked unstoppable together. I'm just trying to understand.

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From a higher level, think about it this way.

Neither like to shoot the 3. Neither really like to play defense.


Now think about all the top 2 stars on good teams over the years. How many have that same profile of not shooting the 3 and not being legit good on defense? I'm not sure there's a single duo that could be named that also had big time success.