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re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread

Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:28 pm to
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ANd 5 turnovers. He is not a very smart player

He was 12th in assist to turnover ratio this year for guys with over a 25% usage percentage…

Better than Lebron, Steph, Luka, Mitchell etc

I swear yall just make up the dumbest shite
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11961 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:26 am to
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He was 12th in assist to turnover ratio this year for guys with over a 25% usage percentage…

Better than Lebron, Steph, Luka, Mitchell etc

I swear yall just make up the dumbest shite
Have you watched him play or just read a stat sheet and pick a stat? He is not a winner. He is a big part of why that team has underperformed. It has been discussed many times how he is a ball hog and takes dumb shots instead of playing within the team. He has played a lot like a stat stuffer instead of a team player. Not sure how that is a great fit on this team.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2704 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:58 am to
I don’t get why people are hating on trading with Blazers. Ayton dominates the hell out of us. In April, he did well. Supposedly he finally got a nice bed and improved after that. Anfernee Simons has been improving every year. Shoots 38% on 8.8 3s per game.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9822 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:44 am to
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He said no trades that were retarded. 5 1sts and Hawkins or Daniels for freaking White and Vuc? Are you kidding? Do you think White is the next coming of Magic Johnson


Gobert went for 4 1sts, a swap, 4 players and Kessler, who they just drafted, which is basically 5 1sts.

Its going to take a lot to pry White (and Vucevic). The Bulls don't want to trade him. So it'll take an overpay, especially with no high end players coming back in return. Plus the picks aren't great. Unless the Sixers or us fall off a cliff, which isn't likely for either. I guess you could dual it back or two, if you are really worried about our pick in 27 or the Sixers pick in 28..
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14462 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:33 am to
Gobert is also a multiple time DPOY and considered a star player.

White nor Vuc is that, or even close to it, and you have Pels giving up BI ALONG with multiple picks ALONG with a young player that’s also worth multiple picks

It’s really an idiotic trade
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9822 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:47 am to
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It’s really an idiotic trade


Thanks I guess. I appreciate the constructive criticism.

So, Ingram can get 3 1sts plus a player. What do you think White, plus a starting Center would command?

BTW, White is more valuable than Ingram. He's over 2 years younger, he plays a more in demand position, put up virtually identical production numbers while shooting double the number of 3s. Plus he's way way cheaper, like less than 1/2. All that and he's still getting better, as he finished 2nd in MIP voting. But I must be totally off base. My bad..
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:17 am to
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BTW, White is more valuable than Ingram


No


And Vucevic sucks. I wouldn’t want him if he was given to us for nothing.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11961 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:54 am to
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Gobert went for 4 1sts, a swap, 4 players and Kessler, who they just drafted, which is basically 5 1sts.

Its going to take a lot to pry White (and Vucevic). The Bulls don't want to trade him. So it'll take an overpay, especially with no high end players coming back in return. Plus the picks aren't great. Unless the Sixers or us fall off a cliff, which isn't likely for either. I guess you could dual it back or two, if you are really worried about our pick in 27 or the Sixers pick in 28..
Are you comparing Gobert and White? White is not even on the same planet as Gobert as far as value.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11961 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:58 am to
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Thanks I guess. I appreciate the constructive criticism.

So, Ingram can get 3 1sts plus a player. What do you think White, plus a starting Center would command?

BTW, White is more valuable than Ingram. He's over 2 years younger, he plays a more in demand position, put up virtually identical production numbers while shooting double the number of 3s. Plus he's way way cheaper, like less than 1/2. All that and he's still getting better, as he finished 2nd in MIP voting. But I must be totally off base. My bad..
WTF? Maybe you are just very good at projecting a player's future. White is not close to BI. He put up stats on a bad team. I like White, but he is not at that level, at least yet. He is one hell of a bargain on his contract though. I do not think Vuc adds a lot to the trade at his age and the dropoff in shooting, and $40 million remaining on his deal. Reduce the price in picks/players and may be reasonable.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 9:59 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14462 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:57 am to
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BTW, White is more valuable than Ingram

This is a ridiculous take btw.

To put it in perspective, what you proposed is the equivalent of trading BI and 3-4 1sts for Jordan Clarkson and Clint Capella.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9069 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:50 am to
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Thanks I guess. I appreciate the constructive criticism.


You should really apply some of the constructive criticism you get. I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or are serious about some of your basketball takes because majority of them are absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9822 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:39 pm to
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White is not close to BI. He put up stats on a bad team.


Hello pot, this is the kettle.

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but he is not at that level, at least yet.


Ingram- 21/5/6

White- 20/5/5

Do you still believe that Ingram is ascending, cause he's put up basically the same stat line 4 years in a row.

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He is one hell of a bargain on his contract though.


Thank you. He is a foundational piece for the Bulls and has been labeled untradeable by their front office. It will cost a lot to pry him lose.

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I do not think Vuc adds a lot to the trade at his age and the dropoff in shooting, and $40 million remaining on his deal. Reduce the price in picks/players and may be reasonable.


He is almost the exact same player as Val, except he's a bit older. I guess we could just resign Val, dial back the trade and just go after White.

I'm not emotionally attached to any of this, just throwing out ideas like everyone else..
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9822 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 12:42 pm to
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You should really apply some of the constructive criticism you get. I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or are serious about some of your basketball takes because majority of them are absolutely ridiculous.



Or what?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9069 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 1:19 pm to
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Or what?


Well just giving you constructive criticism since you appreciate it.
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1685 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 1:39 pm to
Takes like this is why brmark is one of my favorite posters on this board. This trade proposal is insane
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17956 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 1:51 pm to
He should do another Westbrook trade proposal like the one he did three years ago.
Posted by PrayingMantis
Member since Jul 2013
1145 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 2:08 pm to
Trade BI to Utah for Lauri. Whatever picks or filler doesn’t matter get it done. CJ Herb Trey Lauri Zion. All guys who can camp at the 3 but attack aggressive close outs. Kessler and Sexton might be a good target as well
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1685 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 2:10 pm to
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He should do another Westbrook trade proposal like the one he did three years ago.




I want to make sure people don’t think I’m kidding. I really do love brmark as a poster. I view this board a one big dysfunctional family, and brmark is the crazy uncle that is convinced that the government is using WiFi to shoot brain-rotting laser beams into our heads
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2704 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 2:34 pm to
Jordan Clarkson is a good get also. He was their best passer.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14462 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Trade BI to Utah for Lauri.


You must have missed the report that Ainge would take no less than a star player ALONG with 5-6 picks.

There’s not a single player in the league worth what Ainge wants for Lauri, especially when you factor in his next contract and his previous play at other stops when he wasn’t the main guy on the team.
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