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Is Will Howard being overlooked? Gruden's QB Camp

Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:33 pm
Posted by High Life
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:33 pm
Used to think this guy was a douche but he seems really smart and down to earth in this video.

Gruden Camp

Highlights

I can't seem to pin point any major weaknesses in his game. Could be a huge steal in the 3rd or 4th.

- 6'4 235 lb
- 4010 yds, 35 TDS
- Another 7 rushing TDs
- 73.0 comp %
- 8.3 TD %

PFF claims he lacks arm talent, and is a one read QB. When I watch his film I see him making some really impressive throws, great footwork, extends plays and he just plays with alot of confidence. Maybe not the most dynamic explosive playmaker of all time, but he did win a national championship.





Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:36 pm to
He sucks and couldn’t hit a barn at (edited) combine
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by High Life
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:38 am to
You’re talking out your arse but even if you weren’t no one gives a shite about a pro day
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:41 am to
He was awful at combine
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:46 am to
I believe it was the combine he was awful at, right? Like one of the worst combine performances of a QB in recent memory. And was fine at his proday?

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:51 am to
Yea my bad. Brain fart
Posted by infantry1026
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:55 am to
I wouldn’t mind him as a mid round prospect. Definitely a great character guy, but accuracy is a concern. Though he during the postseason, he had improved that aspect of his game.

One thing that I definitely believe is a plus, is that he did a lot of full field reads and a good bit of autonomy at the LOS.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 9:23 am
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:05 am to
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I believe it was the combine he was awful at, right? L


Yea I never understood judging a guy based on a handful of throws he made to a group of random dudes he’s never played with.

How did Shedeur look at the combine? Oh yea that’s right, he didn’t even have the balls to try
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:08 am to
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but accuracy is a concern


73% completion percentage on 4,000 yards passing. Not that concerning. He needs help over the middle and with timing routes but he makes all the gimmes and has great touch on his downfield attempts.

No he’s not a finished product but he can become a better passer. He’s got the intangibles that can’t be taught. Good luck teaching Shedeur how to be 6’4 235. Good luck teaching Dart how to be a leader and compete for championships.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:14 am to
He was absolutely dog shite at the combine. No thanks.
Posted by High Life
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:19 am to
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He was absolutely dog shite at the combine


Some are calling it the worst combine performance since Tom Brady

LINK
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 9:41 am
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:34 am to
Gruden is so grating in this video man
Posted by Kool Kaliper
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

he lacks arm talent, and is a one read QB



Reading is fundamental.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:20 pm to
Please no..
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
2780 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Please no..


I’m just saying if you are going to draft a qb I’d rather take a value like him in the 4th. Hes got the size, tools and he’s already a proven winner. Best of all he’s not a douche like Sanders or Dart
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 9:41 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10185 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:38 am to
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combine


Useful measuring stick, but we have jumped the shark on the Underwear Olympics.

We have people salivating over guys who've under-produced and never won. Meanwhile, guys who've won every level so far slide because of hand size, arm length, astrological sign, etc...
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:43 am to
Dude was really good at K-State. And, unlike others that went into the portal to play for a lower-level team (and thereby increase their playing time), he went from being a guaranteed starter at K-State to being QB1 at tOSU.

Say what you want about his abilities, but the guy has leadership qualities that are hard to find and isn't afraid to challenge himself at the highest level.

If his skills can be improved with coaching and experience, he has intangibles that make him a really good target in the 2nd or 3rd. Could end up being the next Brock Purdy-type of QB for a team that takes a flyer on him.
Posted by ThreeYYYz
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 2:12 pm to
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He sucks


The QB who led the National Championship team that dog walked everyone they played in the playoffs sucks? Man the standards are set pretty high for a team with 2 Fresno State QB's (one that wears eye liner, and another with a side gig at Vogue magazine) and Rattler, who I like, so I will not make fun of.

Point being, the kid doesn't suck, at all.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 2:25 pm to
Maybe not. I watched a lot of the gruden thing. Kid has moxy. Not sure why he was so awful at combine but that left impression on me
Posted by ThreeYYYz
Member since Feb 2025
81 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 2:52 pm to
I hear that. Its hard to look past that performance but its important to remember its not realistic to base a QB's in game abilities on it. The position has evolved, the skills needed to be productive in the NFL are hard to show off in a combine setting.

Also, Zach Wilson derailed the entire Jets organization with one throw in his combine performance.
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