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Vikings OT signs for $28 mill a year, 113’million for 4 years
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:53 am
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:53 am
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Has not made the pro bowl or all pro team once and got $28 million a year.
I remember this summer when Carr was being called overpaid and it was being argued that Mayfield would sign for less than this OT Darrishaw.
Ahh goodtimes.
Que the angry Carr is overpaid responses.
Has not made the pro bowl or all pro team once and got $28 million a year.
I remember this summer when Carr was being called overpaid and it was being argued that Mayfield would sign for less than this OT Darrishaw.
Ahh goodtimes.
Que the angry Carr is overpaid responses.
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:23 am to P bean
Really don’t care what any team pays their players. Saints fans just want a quality product on the field of play.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:04 am to P bean
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I remember this summer when Carr was being called overpaid
Very few people of intelligence are arguing he's overpaid, in the objective sense of the word.
He's too expensive for a team in our cap/roster situation.
The Vikings are in better situations in both areas. Also, Darisaw is young. Carr is not.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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Very few people of intelligence are arguing he's overpaid, in the objective sense of the word.
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He's too expensive for a team in our cap/roster situation
So youre unintelligent and arguing that Carr’s overpaid, got it.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 9:29 am to P bean
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So youre unintelligent and arguing that Carr’s overpaid, got it.
No. He's being paid within the market range.
But we shouldn't be paying our QB that sort of money unless he's elite, given our roster/cap situation. Nobody is arguing Carr is elite.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
So we should just waste our roster with a backup qb?
Posted on 7/24/24 at 10:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Why argue all this again. As you say it was in market range.
The top made the decision to not waste a top ten defense and the worst division in the league on a rebuild and trying to get a top pick for maybe a qb they liked. They saw a window and jumped. DA and Pete wrecked that idea. Our coach is a lame duck with a patchwork oline and a dline that can't get to the qb.
We will know more when we have joint practices about our lines.
The top made the decision to not waste a top ten defense and the worst division in the league on a rebuild and trying to get a top pick for maybe a qb they liked. They saw a window and jumped. DA and Pete wrecked that idea. Our coach is a lame duck with a patchwork oline and a dline that can't get to the qb.
We will know more when we have joint practices about our lines.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 12:24 pm to P bean
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I remember this summer when Carr was being called overpaid and it was being argued that Mayfield would sign for less than this OT Darrishaw.
If we had a great coach and team he’d be fine. For a team on the down slide he’s doing nothing for you.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But we shouldn't be paying our QB that sort of money unless he's elite, given our roster/cap situation. Nobody is arguing Carr is elite.
So, you're saying we should never pay a QB unless he's top 3 in the league. That would mean we would be perennial basement dwellers and would never be able to attract free agents
you know this right?
Posted on 7/24/24 at 1:15 pm to Proximo
Every QB that re-signs or enters into free agency with even a brief history of success or potential (given the right situation) you will see a team "overpay" or stretch to pay. Look at Jordan Love...hasn't proven it long term, they only see recent potential. The next QB contract up with surpass him in a matter of months.
Did anyone know Brees would go good to great within the right situation coming off injury? No. You'll see these gambles even more and more I'd bet, especially at the QB position.
As for Carr, Saints are a dumpster fire with not a lot of options. No one really knows how good he could be in the right system and organization. Maybe you see a big bump this year with new OC?? Maybe not.
Did anyone know Brees would go good to great within the right situation coming off injury? No. You'll see these gambles even more and more I'd bet, especially at the QB position.
As for Carr, Saints are a dumpster fire with not a lot of options. No one really knows how good he could be in the right system and organization. Maybe you see a big bump this year with new OC?? Maybe not.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 1:18 pm to BlacknGold
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So we should just waste our roster with a backup qb?
Our roster isn't good enough to use a term like "waste"
Posted on 7/24/24 at 1:20 pm to Proximo
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So, you're saying we should never pay a QB unless he's top 3 in the
league.
Not what I said at all.
Please review the following:
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given our roster/cap situation.
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That would mean we would be perennial basement dwellers
We're closer to that with Carr and a fricked cap than we are champions.
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and would never be able to attract free agents
Histrionics
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He's being paid within the market range.
Way to turtle.
I rememeber you not knowing that top paid QB’s are getting paid 50 million plus a year.
Also, I remember the idiots on this board thinking Mayfield would sign for 20 million a year, or something ridiculous, when he basically got Carr money at 33 mill a year.
Meanwhile Daniel Jones is over $40 million a year and Goff just signed for $50 million plus.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:54 pm to P bean
This argument is like beating a dead dog huh p bean??
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:19 pm to P bean
Comparing different positions and different salary cap thresholds is real big brain retard stuff
Carr was had the ninth highest AAV and 10th most guarantees when he signed. Only a select few legion of mouth breathers defend this dude and his deal
Carr was had the ninth highest AAV and 10th most guarantees when he signed. Only a select few legion of mouth breathers defend this dude and his deal
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:56 am to P bean
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I rememeber you not knowing that top paid QB’s are getting paid 50 million plus a year.
This never happened
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Also, I remember the idiots on this board thinking Mayfield would sign for 20 million a year, or something ridiculous, when he basically got Carr money at 33 mill a year.
Signing Mayfield to that kind of deal with our cap/roster situation would also be stupid.
Signing Mayfield to the deal he got last year is what we should be looking at.
Then this year we could be looking at a guy like Tannehill on a discount
There are options for mediocre starting QBs without paying $25-30M/year.
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Meanwhile Daniel Jones is over $40 million a year a
Who is defending that?
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and Goff just signed for $50 million plus.
They're in a title window. Everyone who criticized Carr's deal clearly stated that you can overpay/push money in a title window.
When the window is closed, you have to eat shite. In a year or 2, you'll be able to try and compete. The Bucs in our division are a great example of doing just this.
We are pretending that we're still in a title window and nobody can figure out why.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Bucs in our division are a great example of doing just this.
Lol no they arent. They just had Tom Brady retire and did a one year tryout with Baker. Who they are now paying $33 mill a year, Carr money.
Brock Purdy is on the verge of getting $60 mill a year bud. And the Niners will be paying the piper and losing talent (Aiyuk) etc.
Just eat crow already, you cleary live in 2015.
Funny to watch the spin, after a summer of morons saying Carr is overpaid, meanwhile top OT’s with NO probowls etc are getting almost 30 mill a year.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 7:22 am
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:09 am to P bean
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They just had Tom Brady retire and did a one year tryout with Baker. Who they are now paying $33 mill a year, Carr money.
But they can afford it. That's the difference.
Also, in that year of cap resetting, they won our division and made the playoffs.
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Brock Purdy is on the verge of getting $60 mill a year bud. And the Niners will be paying the piper and losing talent (Aiyuk) etc.
They could pay Aiyuk, but not with Debo. I mean they could act like we do and pay both, but SF is a much better organization than we are. That's why they've been so successful lately and we haven't.
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Funny to watch the spin, after a summer of morons saying Carr is overpaid
He's overpaid given our roster/cap situation.
Why do you ignore the actual argument?
The argument is not about Carr's salary in the abstract/objective. It's his salary on our roster, with our cap hell that we're in.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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They could pay Aiyuk, but not with Debo. I mean they could act like we do and pay both, but SF is a much better organization than we are. That's why they've been so successful lately and we haven't.
They’re going to have to pay their QB big bucks.
Who is a better franchise is irrelevant.
The point you dont get is that players get paid, especially when they consistently play well.
Your consistent title window arg indicates that only teams in contention should pay money to get players which is fricking dumb as frick. EVERY team has to pay big bucks to get good players.
Carr getting mid 30’s as our QB is NOT a bad deal, etc.
Its easy to point out how far from reality you are, money wise re: paying players.
You thght Mayfield was going to get pennies, and he got 30 mill plus a year.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 8:43 am
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:06 am to P bean
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Que the angry Carr is overpaid responses
So you’re using another team’s stupidity to justify our own. Nice
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