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Any of y’all ever dealt with a runaway diesel engine?

Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:34 pm
Posted by frequent flyer
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:34 pm
I’ve never seen this happen before in person.

Basically an older diesel engine with some wear could potentially get enough blow by in the piston rings to run on its own engine oil, making it impossible to turn off by simply cutting diesel fuel.

It’s extremely loud as the motor revs very high, potentially dangerous as there is no real governor or engine control when this happens, and can be scary if it happens to you.

I’ve never seen one in person.

crazy video of a runaway diesel





Posted by Randall Savauge
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:36 pm to
Only run away trains. They never coming back.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:39 pm to
Yeah I’ve had it happen a few times but we always had over speed protection so I never had to do anything crazy to kill it. I had a buddy who had an old Mercedes that wouldn’t turn off so I shoved a football in the air intake until it choked itself out.

I’ll say that having to walk up to a 6V71T that’s screaming to manually trip the shutdown valve is scary AF.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 10:41 pm
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:41 pm to
Heard of it happening on a submarine... fricked the diesel up pretty bad. We had big Fairbanks Morse 38ND 8-1/8 opposed piston engines. The procedure for a runaway diesel was to cut fuel and spray CO2 fire extinguishers into the intake I would have just exited the machinery room with a quickness
Posted by OK Roughneck
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Member since Aug 2021
14687 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:42 pm to
Watched a Cat engine on a triplex mud pump take off. It blew the radiator hoses before we got it shut down.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:43 pm to
Saw the results of one in a push boat in the early ‘80s, the crew said it made a bit of a racket before it failed.

Detroit 71 or 92 series engine.

Reminds me of the observation made about Detroit 6V71s:

“Take a photograph of one, frame the picture, put it on the wall for a week. Take the picture down and there’s an oil spot on your wall.”
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:43 pm to
I had a fella call me and ask if my refrigerator was running….that a-hole..


And yes I have Prince Albert in a can ….
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:45 pm to
I have on an old kubota 2 cylinder diesel. I thought the dang thing was going to explode right after it cranked up, scared the crap out of me. Only way to kill it was to cover the intake with my hand. It wasn't from wear though, I had taken the injection pump apart and had something in there 180 degrees out of time after putting it back together. Took me a few hours to figure that one out.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:47 pm to
There's a few ways this can happen.

Old man handled it fine other than leaving the kid on standby to handle it, who promptly shite himself when it started getting away.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

cut fuel and spray CO2 fire extinguishers into the intake


I would have guess the sub diesels had air shutoff valves on them. The more ya know.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

I had taken the injection pump apart and had something in there 180 degrees out of time after putting it back together. Took me a few hours to figure that one out.
Promise us you won’t ever work on planes?
Posted by Warwick
Member since May 2022
1640 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 10:57 pm to
my uncle used gasoline to clean the air filter on a john deere tractor one time. didnt wait long enough for the fumes to dissipate. engine sounded like it was gonna jet out of the tractor and the ignition switch wouldnt kill it. not easy to stall out a 170 hp tractor, but he shifted into hi gear, dropped the disc and hit the brakes before the engine turned him into rocketman. that was my lesson on why gas never goes into a diesel engine.
Posted by reverendotis
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:12 pm to
Yes, seen it happen on a pump engine, a 71 series Detroit.

It runs away in a sense but the mechanical load helps restrain it plus the piston fits being bad enough for this to happen in the first place and the combustion of old oil not being equivalent to atomized, refined diesel usually isn't catastrophic.

I could see it getting out of hand on a truck in neutral but not on something under load.

In the case of the pump engine, it just kept running (real shitty) after fuel got cut off. They ended up gagging the air intake to stop it.

A someone said in this thread, you never need to check the oil in a Detroit, just look under it. If there's no oil under it, there's no oil in it.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:23 pm to
You got to pull the coil wire off.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:40 pm to
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Promise us you won’t ever work on planes?


No promises there but I follow protocols on anything important or valuable. I was flying blind on that little motor with no manual or instructions and it was about to be scrapped because water had got into it.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 12:02 am to
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Only run away trains. They never coming back.


Wrong way on a one way track.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 12:21 am to
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we always had over speed protection 



How did that operate?
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 3:01 am to
Happened with one of our screaming Jimmy's in a 4600 manitowoc drag line.
Posted by Planetarium
Member since Jul 2020
301 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 3:08 am to
Yes, twice.

2 cycle Detroit that the pin fell out of the governor linkage under the valve cover, tripped the flap on the blower to snuff it out.

International truck that the turbo failed on, started pumping engine oil into intake. Hammered the brakes and killed it.
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