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re: Anyone Used a Swamp Cooler on a Patio?
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:39 am to blueridgeTiger
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:39 am to blueridgeTiger
Swamp coolers are used like air conditioners up here. My rental property has one. They work great, but to cool an interior space. Having one outside is a waste of money, especially in TX heat. It won't cool an open air patio. Might as well just get a big box fan for a lot less.
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 8:40 am
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:41 am to blueridgeTiger
My dad had a portable AC unit that was a decent size on the patio and put two fans by it. It kept it pretty cool but obviously it did escape pretty easily. It worked well when sitting out there based on the porch design though for us years ago
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 8:42 am
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:44 am to Gatorbait2008
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a portable AC unit
that's about the only way you'll get some heat relief in TX, yep, you'll pay a little more in utilities but the alternative is your patio is unusable/uninhabitable for a good portion of the year
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:43 am to blueridgeTiger
I appreciate the comments and suggestions, but I still think a good evaporative cooler could provide some cool air in the Texas summer. Here is the area I want cooled, about 300 sq.ft
I have found articles (okay print infomercials) touting use outdoors:
6 Outdoor Uses in Summer
I guess the bottom line is whether the humidity is sufficiently low in this part of Texas (SW of Fort Worth).
I have found articles (okay print infomercials) touting use outdoors:
6 Outdoor Uses in Summer
quote:
People love to be outdoors, so it should come as no surprise that we are now integrating the outdoors with our living spaces. Blending indoor living designs into a patio or large deck gives us a reason to enjoy our backyards, decks, and patios. Hosting a party? An outdoor evaporative cooler is essential for lowering outdoor temperatures and keeping mosquitos at bay. Our Portacool Cyclone 130 is short, stack, and delivers 3,000 CFMs of cool air.
I guess the bottom line is whether the humidity is sufficiently low in this part of Texas (SW of Fort Worth).
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:22 am to blueridgeTiger
Swamp Coolers work great in the southwest: Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas.
DFW maybe borderline. Houston through FL no way with the 80% humidity on the reg.
For evaporative coolers to work well you need under 40% RH. The lower the better. The added humidity is also nice. It gets too dry and stuff starts to crack like wood, vinyl, leather, skin, finger nails. With an evap cooler running you can maintain 40-50% RH in the house much more comfortable.
A patio in Texas, misters would work better than a swamp cooler. I went to a wedding here outside of Orlando and the idiots had a swamp cooler running in the tent. Didn't do crap but make noise.
DFW maybe borderline. Houston through FL no way with the 80% humidity on the reg.
For evaporative coolers to work well you need under 40% RH. The lower the better. The added humidity is also nice. It gets too dry and stuff starts to crack like wood, vinyl, leather, skin, finger nails. With an evap cooler running you can maintain 40-50% RH in the house much more comfortable.
A patio in Texas, misters would work better than a swamp cooler. I went to a wedding here outside of Orlando and the idiots had a swamp cooler running in the tent. Didn't do crap but make noise.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:50 am to madmaxvol
That chart is great. Thanks!! Ok, based on the chart...
- at 80% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 72-F. That is worth it, believe it or not, in some conditions.
- at 75% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 71-F.
Given all that, ok so there are parts of the Gulf Coast where Relative Humidity often runs at 90% to 100%, so no good, right?
But what about in an ALREADY air-conditioned space? Somebody answer me this dumb Q... don't good Central A/C units drop indoor humidity from 95% (outside) down to.. what?? 70% inside? Am I mistaken?
So a small swamp cooler in a room that runs a little hot, can it effectively drop the temp 3-5 degrees? Isn't that enough to make a difference?
- at 80% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 72-F. That is worth it, believe it or not, in some conditions.
- at 75% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 71-F.
Given all that, ok so there are parts of the Gulf Coast where Relative Humidity often runs at 90% to 100%, so no good, right?
But what about in an ALREADY air-conditioned space? Somebody answer me this dumb Q... don't good Central A/C units drop indoor humidity from 95% (outside) down to.. what?? 70% inside? Am I mistaken?
So a small swamp cooler in a room that runs a little hot, can it effectively drop the temp 3-5 degrees? Isn't that enough to make a difference?
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:28 pm to blueridgeTiger
A DIY ice chest AC unit would work way better than a swamp cooler in a humid environment. There's a lot of plans online, freeze bottles of water so you can just swap them out as needed.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 2:25 pm to JPinLondon
re-posting this question... anyone??
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That chart is great. Thanks!! Ok, based on the chart...
- at 80% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 72-F. That is worth it, believe it or not, in some conditions.
- at 75% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 71-F.
Given all that, ok so there are parts of the Gulf Coast where Relative Humidity often runs at 90% to 100%, so no good, right?
But what about in an ALREADY air-conditioned space? Somebody answer me this dumb Q... don't good Central A/C units drop indoor humidity from 95% (outside) down to.. what?? 70% inside? Am I mistaken?
So a small swamp cooler in a room that runs a little hot, can it effectively drop the temp 3-5 degrees? Isn't that enough to make a difference?
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That chart is great. Thanks!! Ok, based on the chart...
- at 80% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 72-F. That is worth it, believe it or not, in some conditions.
- at 75% humidity you can drop a 75-F area to 71-F.
Given all that, ok so there are parts of the Gulf Coast where Relative Humidity often runs at 90% to 100%, so no good, right?
But what about in an ALREADY air-conditioned space? Somebody answer me this dumb Q... don't good Central A/C units drop indoor humidity from 95% (outside) down to.. what?? 70% inside? Am I mistaken?
So a small swamp cooler in a room that runs a little hot, can it effectively drop the temp 3-5 degrees? Isn't that enough to make a difference?
Posted on 7/6/19 at 2:54 pm to blueridgeTiger
The Portacool is somewhat expensive. It it does help. We use them at the plant. Maybe a little noisy.
I would just stay inside until December.
I would just stay inside until December.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 3:09 pm to tommy2tone1999
There fine in Arizona as long it's dry. Once Monsoon season hits and humidity goes out you best have central air.
Don't waste yo money on a swamp cooler in Texas.
Don't waste yo money on a swamp cooler in Texas.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 3:14 pm to blueridgeTiger
If you have a little room and want to be cool, let me tell
You what to do. Get a big fan. Build an insulated box that sits behind it with room for shelves for 4 or 6 milk crates. Have slots for air intake, then fill the crates with ice from your ice machine.
It’s noisy but will seriously cool an area.
Works a lot better if you already have a big fan and an ice maker
You what to do. Get a big fan. Build an insulated box that sits behind it with room for shelves for 4 or 6 milk crates. Have slots for air intake, then fill the crates with ice from your ice machine.
It’s noisy but will seriously cool an area.
Works a lot better if you already have a big fan and an ice maker
Posted on 7/6/19 at 3:42 pm to blueridgeTiger
Loud as hell and really don’t do much more than drop temp down 1 or 2 degrees. More mental cooling than actual cooling.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 3:57 pm to blueridgeTiger
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evaporative coolers
They will give you Legionaries Disease if you dont put the disinfectant in them. I know a place used them at work many yrs ago and several people got sick. They were young people and everyone got over it ok but they got rid of them anyway.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 4:01 pm to tommy2tone1999
They dont work well but the do help the fan air is drawn through the water and that takes some of the heat out. The air that comes out is cooler not considering the humidity effect. I bought 1 before I knew more. Here it is years later and it is a good strong fan with a slight cooling effect.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 4:03 pm to blueridgeTiger
Too humid in the South for an evaporative cooler. They work best in dry climates.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 4:31 pm to redstick13
Ft Worth Humidity is mostly > 55%. An evaporative cooler is a waste of money.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 5:07 pm to GetmorewithLes
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They were young people and everyone got over it ok but they got rid of them anyway.
Seems a little harsh to do that to the young people.
This chart tells you everything you need to know about whether or not Swamp Coolers will work where you live.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 5:13 pm to TigerstuckinMS
My buddy has one in a 800 sq ft open space and it works great in South Louisiana. I enjoy his patio because it doesn't matter how hot it is outside, the breeze from his evap cooler is significant.
This post was edited on 7/6/19 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 7/6/19 at 6:49 pm to Nawlens Gator
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Ft Worth Humidity is mostly > 55%. An evaporative cooler is a waste of money.
Shhhhh
Don’t worry about hard science. He feels like it should work.
Let him spend however much money he wants to drop the temp 5 degrees but so saturate the air he feels sticky within 5 minutes of being outside.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 7:04 pm to Nawlens Gator
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Ft Worth Humidity is mostly > 55%. An evaporative cooler is a waste of money.
But it does routinely drop below that during the late afternoon/early evening when the cooler would be used. I think he should give it a shot, and report his findings.
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