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Australian Shepherd and/or Toller Retriever Info.

Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted by uppereast
South
Member since Aug 2011
310 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:31 pm
Looking for a dog and narrowed our search to either an Australian Shepherd or a Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever. Will not use for any hunting or shows. Just a well rounded family pet.
I was hoping to get a little info if anyone can help.
1. Any major cons to either of these breeds?
2. Know of any local breeders for either?

Thanks in advance...
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
69899 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:33 pm to
Rescue pit blend for kids
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
751 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:40 pm to
We got our Aussie from “Ray’s Aussies” in Alexandria. Wonderful family and great blood line. Our dog came to us potty trained. She is extremely smart but energetic

Cons: Sheds a lot. However we have learned to cope with that and it’s not a problem anymore.

Energy. This could be under both but she needs attention. She will lay down most of the day but she will need to run and run hard for a while. If not, she will get bored and dig or just won’t leave you alone lol. They call them Velcro dogs for a reason

Pros: way too many

She’s so sweet with children and adults. She loves everyone and is protective of the family members. She doesn’t bark and is my best friend. I wouldn’t get any other kind of dog due to my experience with the one I have
Posted by DandA
Mandevillian
Member since Jun 2018
917 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:53 pm to
I have 2 Aussies so I can only speak to them.

1. Smart as all hell and they need tons of exercise. If you don't have a nice chunk of land for them to run, then get ready for a lot of walks. They also need a "job" to keep them stimulated mentally. If they get bored, that's when some bad behaviors could arise.

2. They shed a lot and you have to keep up on grooming them, especially the long hair by their rear end.

3. They are your shadow and there is no such thing as personal space to them when it comes to the person they bond with.

4. You have to get them socialized and trained early on. It took awhile for mine to be relaxed around other dogs and young children.

If all of those are manageable for you and your family, GET ONE. They are the best, most fun, and loving dogs I've ever owned. I've had labs, huskies, dachshunds, Goldens before, but my Aussies are the best
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78650 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:56 pm to
I have an Aussie.

I love her, but she needs attention.

Like the other poster said I just ran her throwing the frisbee outside for about 45 minutes.

If I don’t do that she gets all whiny and starts throwing her toys everywhere.

Now she’s passed out on the floor so I can watch soccer in peace.

So great dogs, but you’ve got to wear their asses out or they annoy you.

Mine is almost 8 months now and I hardly ever leash her. She just follows me everywhere and comes sprinting when I call her.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 2:03 pm
Posted by uppereast
South
Member since Aug 2011
310 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 2:16 pm to
Thanks to all. Good advice and yall are making me reconsider. Not sure if we have the bandwidth to commit to daily activities needed.
Again, thanks!
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 2:34 pm to
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Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
67929 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 2:38 pm to
Get a pit bull instead.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37462 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

and they need tons of exercise.


Biggest reason so many dogs end up in rescue organizations. People fail to research breeds properly and don’t know how much space, attention and exercise they need on a daily basis.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10103 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:21 pm to
A farming neighbor has a large Aussie, his third (he's in his 80's now and in his 70's decided how much he missed having one, so he got this one.) Smart, smart dog. Exercises itself starting on his farm over to our land runs about two tenths of a mile along our lower fence line, turn runs four tenths of a mile and then about another two tenths of a mile home. Varys his run according to interesting things happening. Some mornings doesn't even slow down on his run. Afternoons are spent at their other farm, where I expect he gets his big run of the day in.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:34 pm to
I have an Aussie and I’ll just reiterate the high energy and intelligence. She’s sweet and loves attention. The only draw back on mine is that she will gtfo of dodge if left off a leash or the run.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52870 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:43 pm to
I want an Aussie!! I’ve never heard of the other breed.

I know tons of people with aussies and they say they are wonderful but high energy.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
806 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:49 pm to
Both of these breeds need a job. They are not couch potatoes, and don't even think letting them out in the backyard counts as anything but a potty break ;)

We have an Aussie (Miniature American Shepherd actually, aka mini Aussie.) Super smart, easy to train, but HAS to work. It's not just physical exercise that they need, but also mental stimulation. She just turned 3 and has a ridiculous number of competitive titles. We run herding, agility, obedience, scentwork, etc etc. And our days off consist of hours of off leash romps. All the Aussies I know have similar need for engagement/training/work.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70868 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:34 pm to
I got an Aussie. He has a ton of energy. I have to take him on bike rides almost daily to wear him out. He'll try and keep a 16-18 mph pace too (have speedo on bike)
Great dog. Mine was supposed to be a mini but came out bigger so the breeder sold him cheap as long as I promised not to breed him.
Great dog. But any dog is going to reflect how you raise it. Even the best breeds can be shite dogs.
Posted by DandA
Mandevillian
Member since Jun 2018
917 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:11 pm to
Oh, I will add on to my previous thoughts OP...

From my experience, male Aussies are WAYYY more even-tempered and calmer than females. So, if you go the Aussie route, try for a male. My boy is a literal lap-dog at 60 lbs and he doesnt know how to play with balls/frisbees, etc. and he's just a generally more relaxed dog. My female is a hyper neurotic alpha bitch who keeps my male in line. She will play all day long until she can't walk anymore.

Don't let all of the things you need to know dissuade you from an Aussie because they are the greatest when raised properly and given the right environment!
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32491 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

Will not use for any hunting or shows. Just a well rounded family pet.


Just save a dog at the shelter.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2988 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:17 pm to
Get a mutt
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33891 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:20 pm to
We have a 6 mo old miniature Aussie. He’s very sweet and smart. Extremely mischievous but it’s hard to get mad at him too much. He’s very handsome and I get compliments on him all the time. Seems to be protective but not aggressive.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9812 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:27 pm to
Border Collie or the Toller
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
806 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Will not use for any hunting or shows. Just a well rounded family pet.


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quote:

Border Collie
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