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Ban the Box
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:36 pm
I first heard about this about a week ago, and it makes me want to puke.
If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes.
If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes.
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:37 pm to UFFan
You got anymore context for us bro?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:37 pm to UFFan
Thank you for all of the wonderful insight you provided.
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I first heard about this about a week ago, and it makes me want to puke.
If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:39 pm to BeerMoney
It prevents jobs from doing a background check until they give a conditional offer of employment.
And if they rescind the job offer, they have to give some letter to the state explaining why they're not hiring the felon.
And if they rescind the job offer, they have to give some letter to the state explaining why they're not hiring the felon.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:39 pm to UFFan
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It prevents jobs from doing a background check until they give a conditional offer of employment.
keeeeep going...almost there!
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:40 pm to UFFan
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It prevents jobs from doing a background check until they give a conditional offer of employment.
How do you think they intend on replacing all the illegals that left?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:44 pm to UFFan
quote:Agreed.
If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes.
The easiest method to avoid this is to simply not commit a felony.
Don’t break the law. It is a fairly simple concept.
Not hard to do.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:44 pm to UFFan
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Ban the Box
I first heard about this about a week ago, and it makes me want to puke.
If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:45 pm to UFFan
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If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes.
Do you really not see the unintended consequences of this statement?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:45 pm to jizzle6609
If some private business employer is dumb enough to hire felons, then they should have the right to do so.
But hiring felons should not be mandated by the state.
But hiring felons should not be mandated by the state.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:45 pm to UFFan
Here you go, you lazy arse OP.... 
Phillip Hernandez says the problem isn't ban-the-box; it's the racial discrimination among employers that ban-the-box efforts have exposed.
It's already somewhat in effect in our wonderful state of Louisiana.
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"Ban the Box" refers to laws that restrict employers from asking about a job applicant's criminal history on initial job applications. These laws aim to reduce discrimination against individuals with criminal records by giving them a chance to show their qualifications before a background check, according to the National Employment Law Project.
Phillip Hernandez says the problem isn't ban-the-box; it's the racial discrimination among employers that ban-the-box efforts have exposed.
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But two recent studies have raised questions about potential unintended consequence of the laws.
One found the callback rate for all people with criminal records did increase. The other found employment increased about 4 percent for older African Americans and improved for African-American women with a college degree. But both also raised red flags when it came to young black men. They were less likely to get callbacks for interviews than before ban-the-box laws were adopted.
“My takeaway from these studies,” Hernandez says, “is not that ban-the- box policies are ineffective. It’s instead that racial discrimination is still unfortunately alive and well in the hiring process.
“Unless young black men in particular can indicate on a job application that they’ve never been involved with the criminal justice system, then the default assumption made by too many employers in too many cases is that they have been.
It's already somewhat in effect in our wonderful state of Louisiana.
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Louisiana has a "Ban the Box" policy, meaning employers are generally prohibited from asking about a job applicant's criminal history on initial job applications. This policy, part of Louisiana's Fair Chance Act, aims to reduce discrimination against individuals with criminal records and give them a fair opportunity in the hiring process.
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Louisiana's Fair Chance law, enacted as Act 406, restricts employers' use of criminal history in hiring decisions. It prohibits employers from considering arrest records or charges that did not result in a conviction. For convictions, employers must conduct an "individualized assessment" to determine if the criminal history has a "direct and adverse relationship" with the specific job duties. This assessment must consider factors like the nature and gravity of the offense, the time elapsed since the offense, and the nature of the job.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:46 pm to UFFan
I dunno, a nice box is a thing of beauty
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:47 pm to Joshjrn
quote:Employers should have the right to know the background of individuals they are offering a job to.
Do you really not see the unintended consequences of this statement?
Don’t commit criminal acts and this won’t be an issue.
There are likely plenty of menial labor jobs available for those who commit crimes that care little for their criminal history.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:49 pm to UFFan
I don’t know how anyone would not know what OP is talking about. This SJW push has been around for a long time.
But then I remembered this is a southern message board full of uneducated people.
But then I remembered this is a southern message board full of uneducated people.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:49 pm to UFFan
It's almost like you're having a verbal conversation with another person right now, and just posting what you're saying on here.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:50 pm to Scruffy
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Employers should have the right to know the background of individuals they are offering a job to.
Don’t commit criminal acts and this won’t be an issue.
I don't have strong feelings on the subject either way, but it's primarily a liability issue. It's certainly justified for some positions, but for others, employers ask simply to cover their arse. Ban the Box shifts that liability off of the employer and means that they will only refuse the job if the type of conviction is an actual issue.
Again, I don't have strong feelings either way, but that's what it's generally about.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:51 pm to Joshjrn
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I don't have strong feelings on the subject either way
you felt strong enough to reply
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:53 pm to Shexter
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These laws aim to reduce discrimination against individuals with criminal records
we have turned "discrimination" into a word almost akin to "racism". you SHOULD discriminate when hiring new employees. being a felon is a pretty good damn reason to take a really close look at someone and maybe to reject outright just as a matter of course.
discrimination - The ability or power to see or make fine distinctions; discernment.
there doesnt have to be a malicious factor involved
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:54 pm to MorbidTheClown
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you felt strong enough to reply
This post would be extremely silly, were it not just a hedge once you realized that I didn't actually start this thread, so your original post of "you felt strong enough to start a thread about it" or something along those lines was utterly offbase. Just own that you made a simple mistake; not a big deal
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:54 pm to Shexter
So it all goes back to accusations of racism…again. What a surprise.
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