- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
1
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:56 pm to UFFan
quote:
It prevents jobs from doing a background check until they give a conditional offer of employment. And if they rescind the job offer, they have to give some letter to the state explaining why they're not hiring the felon.
That’s stupid.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:57 pm to Scruffy
quote:
There are likely plenty of menial labor jobs available for those who commit crimes that care little for their criminal history.
Richard Pryor made a movie about it - Car Wash
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:00 pm to UFFan
quote:
Ban the Box" refers to laws that restrict employers from asking about a job applicant's criminal history on initial job applications.
Why would a company want this information?
Bonus question: Are there parallels to background checks in gun ownership?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:00 pm to Artificial Ignorance
quote:
Why would a company want this information?
why would a company NOT want it?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:00 pm to Sam Quint
quote:
i guess i do not
If you make it so that anyone with a criminal conviction can no longer make anything better than a base sustenance living by legal means, what do you think is going to happen? And if your answer is "they'll do minimum wage jobs until they die", maybe give it a bit more thought.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:04 pm to Artificial Ignorance
quote:
Bonus question: Are there parallels to background checks in gun ownership?
I have a criminal background that would throw a lot of red flags. I also pass the 4473 test multiple times a year, so no, the actual parallels don't truly exist.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:06 pm to Joshjrn
quote:
If you make it so that anyone with a criminal conviction can no longer make anything better than a base sustenance living by legal means
who is saying they cant? it's up to individual companies to decide whether or not someone is worth the risk.
the implication that YOU are making is that companies should have to jump through extra hoops just to NOT hire a felon. does that make sense to you?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:13 pm to UFFan
quote:
And if they rescind the job offer, they have to give some letter to the state explaining why they're not hiring the felon.
"We won't be hiring (blank) because they are a convicted felon. Thanks."
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:22 pm to Scruffy
It sounds good in theory, but if you make it hard for felons to get a job, you are pushing them back into a life of crime. They are most likely not competing for the same level of employment as you anyway.
Them not being employable costs you in so many ways that you are not even considering. If they can't get a job, that's another person/family on welfare or other government assistance. It puts them in a situation where they can only take and never give to society.
From personal experience, some of my most loyal employees have been felons who were just grateful to get a chance. Have some of them burned me? Of course, but it is a very small percentage.
Every human deserves the right to earn a living.
Them not being employable costs you in so many ways that you are not even considering. If they can't get a job, that's another person/family on welfare or other government assistance. It puts them in a situation where they can only take and never give to society.
From personal experience, some of my most loyal employees have been felons who were just grateful to get a chance. Have some of them burned me? Of course, but it is a very small percentage.
Every human deserves the right to earn a living.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:22 pm to IAmNERD
Michael Scott just wishes it was a white guy who was arrested for polluting a black guys lake.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:23 pm to Sam Quint
quote:
who is saying they cant? it's up to individual companies to decide whether or not someone is worth the risk.
the implication that YOU are making is that companies should have to jump through extra hoops just to NOT hire a felon. does that make sense to you?
You did. This is what you said:
"If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes."
If you want to modify that a bit, feel free
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:27 pm to UFFan
A former employee of my business contacted me about hiring a relative of his that was serving time for manslaughter. Make a long story short, his relative is the best employee I ever had, never been late, works hard and never has he ever let me down. He made a mistake, served his time and changed his life. I gave him the opportunity to earn a living and that's all he ever wanted from me. He's been with me for 10 years now.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:29 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:
why would a company NOT want it?
It was bait. Get off my hook.
Have subsequently been told there are no parallels (Importance of Companies asking for background checks and gun acquirers getting their background checked).
Logic need not apply here (pun intended).
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:29 pm to Shexter
quote:
“My takeaway from these studies,” Hernandez says, “is not that ban-the- box policies are ineffective. It’s instead that racial discrimination is still unfortunately alive and well in the hiring process.
Crime statistics are racist, apparently.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:31 pm to Scruffy
I'd hire the felon before the OP.
Odds are he/she is a better communicator.
Odds are he/she is a better communicator.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:33 pm to Joshjrn
quote:
Do you really not see the unintended consequences of this statement?
We would have to deal with a bunch of non-criminals walking around?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:38 pm to Joshjrn
quote:
"If you don't want to have a hard time getting a job because of a criminal conviction, then don't commit crimes."
i didnt say that
but you dont think that companies should have the right to outright reject a felon's job application?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:39 pm to UFFan
quote:
If some private business employer is dumb enough to hire felons
Some of my best employees are former felons. You sometimes have to go through a few to find the good ones, but whatever, it's not much different than non-felons. You can tell when you interview them who is serious about turning life around and who is just needing a job to make the PO happy.
Some people frick up in life. If you've paid your debt and want to get on with life, come on. I'll give you a chance.
I don't hire thieves or perverts, though. The large majority of my felon hires are guys that grew up in the hood and were caught dealing drugs and/or weapons charges.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:43 pm to TigerDude
quote:
It sounds good in theory, but if you make it hard for felons to get a job, you are pushing them back into a life of crime. They are most likely not competing for the same level of employment as you anyway.
Them not being employable costs you in so many ways that you are not even considering. If they can't get a job, that's another person/family on welfare or other government assistance. It puts them in a situation where they can only take and never give to society.
From personal experience, some of my most loyal employees have been felons who were just grateful to get a chance. Have some of them burned me? Of course, but it is a very small percentage.
Every human deserves the right to earn a living.
so companies should be forced into employing felons?
i honestly do not understand what you guys are trying to get at here.
quote:
but if you make it hard for felons to get a job, you are pushing them back into a life of crime.
who is the "you" in this case? there is no law against felons getting jobs. this is private companies not WANTING to hire felons. you dont believe that a company has that prerogative?
Page 2 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News