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Company car vs mileage reimbursement

Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:36 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:36 pm
I'm having a debate with coworkers, we're offered either a company car (currently a 2023 Toyota Camry) or mileage reimbursement, no vehicle allowance.

Most of us average around 15k miles driven per year.

I've ran the numbers and I think you'd be better off buying a used Camry (or something similar in reliability), it'd theoretically pay for itself in 2 or 3 years and if you figure another year for maintenance, after 4 years, you're making money. Theoretically, you've put 60k miles on it during this time.

For the record, I currently drive a 2011 Camry that I only use for work, it's paid off so I'm making money. My strategy thus far has been to purchase an older, decent Toyota in the 80-100k mile range so a lot of the depreciation has already taken place.

Obviously, you have to be smart about what you drive but I think it's doable, some disagree.

What say you?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
164723 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:37 pm to
Depends on if the company vehicle would be available for personal use
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
6840 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:40 pm to
Most times with reimbursement you have to carry special insurance and get a automobile nor more the 5 years older the current year. These don't seem to be happening right now so yearh take the reimbursement and pocket it
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:41 pm to
Buy a cheap electric car with your mileage reimbursement and plug it in to charge while at work


Win win
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 9:43 pm
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
12710 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:45 pm to
If your car gets wrecked, it’s on you to replace it. Reimbursement just moves the risk to you. The money you think you are making gaming the system can be quickly lost.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58299 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:51 pm to
53 cents / mile on the mileage reimbursement?

Any personal use on the company car option?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60991 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Depends on if the company vehicle would be available for personal use


Yes

quote:

Most times with reimbursement you have to carry special insurance and get a automobile nor more the 5 years older the current year. These don't seem to be happening right now so yearh take the reimbursement and pocket it


Neither are requirements in our circumstance. We're just required minimal coverage.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60991 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

53 cents / mile on the mileage reimbursement?

Any personal use on the company car option?


$.67 and yes
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
67957 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

If your car gets wrecked, it’s on you to replace it. Reimbursement just moves the risk to you. The money you think you are making gaming the system can be quickly lost.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60991 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

If your car gets wrecked, it’s on you to replace it. Reimbursement just moves the risk to you. The money you think you are making gaming the system can be quickly lost.


This is the biggest pro/con in my opinion, to mitigate the risk as much as possible, you have to drive a vehicle that isn't worth as much, thus likely older.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6094 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:57 pm to
Ours is $400/month and $.52/mile. The kicker is you have to be under 5 years or 120k miles.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58299 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:00 pm to
Tax on personal miles for the company car option?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60991 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Tax on personal miles for the company car option?


I'm not sure on the details of that, the folks I do know with company cars tend to only use them if they're running to the store or something. No one is taking them on personal use roadtrips. So I'm assuming there are some stipulations on mileage or something.

This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 10:04 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60991 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

Ours is $400/month and $.52/mile. The kicker is you have to be under 5 years or 120k miles.


That seems rough.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11666 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

I'm having a debate with coworkers, we're offered either a company car (currently a 2023 Toyota Camry) or mileage reimbursement, no vehicle allowance.

No vehicle allowance makes this sound like a no-brainer to me. If you think you can cover fuel, maintenance, insurance, and the cost of the vehicle on the IRS mileage rate then do you, I suppose.
quote:

I've ran the numbers and I think you'd be better off buying a used Camry (or something similar in reliability), it'd theoretically pay for itself in 2 or 3 years and if you figure another year for maintenance, after 4 years, you're making money. Theoretically, you've put 60k miles on it during this time.

Current IRS rate is $0.67/mile. If I assume 25 mpg and $3.20/gal, that’s ~$0.13/mile in fuel cost. So theoretically you “make” about $0.55/mile.

Assuming you actually drive 15k reimbursable miles a year, that’s ~$8,000/year before maintenance, insurance, and the cost of the vehicle.

Average cost for full coverage in LA is supposedly something like $3,800/year. So now you’re down to $4,200/year.

Say you buy a 10 year old Camry with 100k miles for ~$10,000. Let’s then say you’re going to drive it to 200k miles. That’ll get you ~6.7 years at 15k miles/year. So your vehicle cost is.. $1,500/year? Now you’re down to a net $2,700/year from the mileage. It’s really less than that because of time value of money, but let’s go with that.

Now let’s say you spend, I don’t know, $400/year on maintenance. You’re down to a net $2,300/year from mileage.

For that $2,300/year you get:
- All of the maintenance risks (one bad break could wipe out your savings).
- All of the insurance/collision risks (both in terms of liability and the risk that it gets totaled somehow).
- A car that’s 10 years older and has 100k more miles.

Can you make money? Probably. Is it worth the risk and inconvenience? Debatable.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
164723 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:26 pm to
quote:



Yes

Take the company car. Does it come with a fuel card and do they insure it?
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
5686 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:26 pm to
easy, mileage reimbursement. Obviously tons of factors to consider.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60991 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

Average cost for full coverage in LA is supposedly something like $3,800/year. 


Yikes.

I'm paying like $740 a year for full coverage on my current Toyota, obviously not in Louisiana
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65751 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:36 pm to
How does insurance work?
On either case?
Do you have to disclose to your insurance company you use your personal car for business purposes?
Do you have to personally pay insurance on a company vehicle?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60991 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

How does insurance work?
On either case?
Do you have to disclose to your insurance company you use your personal car for business purposes?
Do you have to personally pay insurance on a company vehicle?


No and no.

We're only required to keep the minimum legal coverage amounts on our personal vehicles.
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