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Construction Management....
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:19 pm
Hey guys, new to the forum and LSU. I am attending the LSU online post bac construction management program. I wanted to know if anyone here has gone through the program?
If not, is there anyone here in the construction industry that could tell me if the program is worth the investment? I have zero experience in construction and my bachelors degree is in economics. I have a lot of office and administration experience just not in construction.
How would the degree be viewed by employers? It seems to cover the basics of materials, estimation, scheduling, cost control, structural principles, mechanical/electrical systems, and contracting. I am assuming it's akin to getting a second bachelors or earning a double major, no?
Anyways, I have the option of going to the masters but I was wondering if I could find entry level work with just the post bac before I jump into the masters? Or should I just go all the way to the masters before seeking entry level work?
Any and all info will help! Thanks!
If not, is there anyone here in the construction industry that could tell me if the program is worth the investment? I have zero experience in construction and my bachelors degree is in economics. I have a lot of office and administration experience just not in construction.
How would the degree be viewed by employers? It seems to cover the basics of materials, estimation, scheduling, cost control, structural principles, mechanical/electrical systems, and contracting. I am assuming it's akin to getting a second bachelors or earning a double major, no?
Anyways, I have the option of going to the masters but I was wondering if I could find entry level work with just the post bac before I jump into the masters? Or should I just go all the way to the masters before seeking entry level work?
Any and all info will help! Thanks!
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:20 pm to Manored77
PIIHB
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:22 pm to Manored77
PIIHB
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:22 pm to Manored77
Field experience.
My one regret in college is not going after internships and gaining a lot of field experience before graduating.
Getting the piece of paper upon graduation, but field experience is far greater and more valuable than a diploma.
ETA: DO NOT go after a masters degree in this field. Incredibly pointless and a waste of time and money.
If you already have a degree, I'd recommend not going after a CM degree. That's plenty, IMO, to get an entry level position as an assistant superintendent.
If you're serious about getting into construction, find an assistant superintendent position in the specific construction field you are interested in (commercial, industrial, etc). Forget the CM degree route.
My one regret in college is not going after internships and gaining a lot of field experience before graduating.
Getting the piece of paper upon graduation, but field experience is far greater and more valuable than a diploma.
ETA: DO NOT go after a masters degree in this field. Incredibly pointless and a waste of time and money.
If you already have a degree, I'd recommend not going after a CM degree. That's plenty, IMO, to get an entry level position as an assistant superintendent.
If you're serious about getting into construction, find an assistant superintendent position in the specific construction field you are interested in (commercial, industrial, etc). Forget the CM degree route.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:23 pm to Manored77
Your wife is cheating on you
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:25 pm to Manored77
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my bachelors degree is in economics.
First mistake
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:25 pm to Manored77
You may want to move this thread to the money board for legitimate responses.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:26 pm to Manored77
Yeah, shoot me an email if you want, not about construction management though. I'm just ready to confess to banging your sister, wife, and mother.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:27 pm to Manored77
while your economics experience is a plus, construction management is not something that you do from an office...you can make pretty good money at it if you don't mind traveling and spending a hell of a lot of time on construction sites. my advice would be to start spending time in a construction setting ASAP to get yourself some experience and also to see if that is what you want to do for a living.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:29 pm to MSH
Do you mean get on a job site and start putting up sheet rock or seek out a specific internship in CM? Grads don't usually get jobs out of college? Last, in your opinion, the Post Bac is sufficient book knowledge, not taking field experience into account?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:29 pm to Manored77
quote:
Hey guys, new to the forum and LSU. I am attending the LSU online post bac construction management program. I wanted to know if anyone here has gone through the program?
Aye
quote:
If not, is there anyone here in the construction industry that could tell me if the program is worth the investment?
Aye
quote:
How would the degree be viewed by employers? It seems to cover the basics of materials, estimation, scheduling, cost control, structural principles, mechanical/electrical systems, and contracting. I am assuming it's akin to getting a second bachelors or earning a double major, no?
Since you already have a degree, get your masters in CM. It's designed for people like you. You'll be viewed as a project engineer to train up to be a project manager over time.
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Anyways, I have the option of going to the masters but I was wondering if I could find entry level work with just the post bac before I jump into the masters? Or should I just go all the way to the masters before seeking entry level work?
Just go straight to the masters in CM. They offer it both in person and online. The Construction Student Association and Construction Industry Advisory Council both do a great job at providing plenty of internship opportunities while you're in school.
I cannot recommend the program enough. Definitely do it, get involved, and milk the mentorship program for all its worth.
Good luck
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:30 pm to Jabstep
Woah I was about to give up until you came along! Sweet! 
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:32 pm to Manored77
office and administration experience - completely useless
Majoring in Econ was your first mistake.
So you're female? All that admin experience will count against you. I switched out of CM the second I realized CM is not considered an engineering discipline. I'm a EE and make nearly triple that, than any CM project manager.
You should've gone Engineering all the way. Not much you can do with an Econ degree or some CM certificate aside from a sales gig or PM role for around $50K a year.
Majoring in Econ was your first mistake.
So you're female? All that admin experience will count against you. I switched out of CM the second I realized CM is not considered an engineering discipline. I'm a EE and make nearly triple that, than any CM project manager.
You should've gone Engineering all the way. Not much you can do with an Econ degree or some CM certificate aside from a sales gig or PM role for around $50K a year.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:33 pm to Manored77
Listen to what kingbob said. He nailed it
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:33 pm to Breauxsif
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CM certificate aside from a sales gig or PM role for around $50K a year.
Really, because several of my classmates, who were no overachievers by any stretch of the imagination, were making 80k/year right out the gate.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:35 pm to kingbob
kingbob, thanks so much. did you do the post bac or the masters or both? I figured I'd just go all the way through the masters. Now are those internships all in LA only because as of right now I am in Los Angeles, CA but am moving back to my hometown of Houston, TX. Does LSU stretch out that far because that's the closest I'd be to Louisiana. Either way I'd be willing to relocate.
But you're saying the post bac by itself is not sufficient enough to at least land entry level work even in construction administration?
But you're saying the post bac by itself is not sufficient enough to at least land entry level work even in construction administration?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:36 pm to Breauxsif
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or PM role for around $50K a year.
I don't know 1 PM that makes less than $100k/yr. I know several that make closer to $200k. I think you are thinking of fresh out of college PE's not PM'sPosted on 6/13/16 at 9:36 pm to Manored77
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Do you mean get on a job site and start putting up sheet rock or seek out a specific internship in CM?
The best entry level hire we've made was a grad who interned with a sheetrocker, electrician, and general contractor while in school. He wanted to be in the GC world, so spending time with the speciality trades was invaluable experience.
If you're looking to be a GC, I'd recommend trying to get an entry level (assistant superintendent) position with a GC. You'll be all your time in the field, learning through osmosis. What's he best way to learn a foreign language? Spend time and speak with people who speak that language. Immerse yourself in the language and you'll properly learn how to speak it.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:36 pm to Carson123987
Love the Christopher Hitchens avatar!
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:38 pm to Manored77
I did just a bachelors, but a couple of my friends were in the masters program. There's just as many, if not more, jobs in Texas than in Louisiana. There were several firms out in Los Angeles and San Diego that recruited here. LSU's CM school is one of the most highly regarded in the nation.
Just a regular bachelors is enough to gain entry level work, but if you've already got a bachelors, the masters in CM is tailor made for you. If you don't have at least one $45k/year job offer in hand at graduation from LSU's CM program, you're doing something wrong, and this is coming from someone who had a sub 3.0 GPA.
Just a regular bachelors is enough to gain entry level work, but if you've already got a bachelors, the masters in CM is tailor made for you. If you don't have at least one $45k/year job offer in hand at graduation from LSU's CM program, you're doing something wrong, and this is coming from someone who had a sub 3.0 GPA.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 9:39 pm
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