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Dexter Reed. The next George Floyd?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:36 pm
Just note that this is from the AP
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Of course the article includes a nice high school photo of the now deceased 26 year old for an added touch.
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CHICAGO (AP) — A deadly traffic stop where plainclothes Chicago police officers fired nearly 100 shots in under a minute has raised serious questions about the use of force and role of tactical officers in departments.
As family and community members mourn 26-year-old Dexter Reed, a police oversight agency and Cook County prosecutors are investigating.
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Videos and documents released this week by the Chicago Office of Police Accountability paint a harrowing picture of what happened during the March 21 traffic stop.
But about a week ago, the oversight agency’s leader expressed “grave concerns” about the officers’ actions in a letter to Police Superintendent Larry Snelling.
Officers in an unmarked police car stopped Reed for not wearing a seatbelt, according to COPA. But things devolved quickly as he appeared to refuse officers’ commands and didn’t immediately leave the SUV, according to video.
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Reed fired first, according to COPA, leaving an officer with a wrist injury. Then four officers fired 96 shots in a span of 41 seconds, including after Reed exited the vehicle, fell to the ground and lay motionless. One officer alone fired 50 shots.
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Based on the totality of the available evidence, COPA has grave concerns about the officers’ ability to assess what is a necessary, reasonable, and proportional use of deadly force,” COPA Chief Administrator Andrea Kersten wrote in an April 1 letter obtained through a records request.
The American Civil Liberties Union also criticized the officers’ actions, including for immediately drawing guns and making profanity-laced commands.
“From the moment they all jump into the vehicle to chase the car, you can feel the adrenaline rush,” said ACLU of Illinois spokesman Ed Yonka. “There were no efforts at de-escalation.”
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Doubts have been raised about whether there was a seat belt violation that led to the stop.
Experts questioned tactical officers’ involvement.
“Why would a police officer, not in uniform, bother with something like that?” asked Geoffrey Alpert, a researcher at the University of South Carolina specializing in high-risk police activities.
Reed’s SUV had dark tinted windows, making it difficult for officers to see inside, Kersten noted in her letter.
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The available evidence calls into question the veracity of this account,” Kersten wrote to Snelling.
Reed’s family members were also skeptical.
“If he was supposedly pulled over for a traffic stop, why did they have four guns pointed at him?” Reed’s sister, Porscha Banks, told reporters after the videos were released. “He was scared.”
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All 96 shots need to be accounted for. That means, ‘Why were they fired?’” Alpert said. “The only reason you can fire is if this guy is creating an imminent threat.”
The videos don’t show Reed firing a gun. Police later found a weapon on the passenger side seat of his vehicle.
Footage from body-worn cameras offer glimpses into the confusing and distressing situation, including an officer who applied a tourniquet to a bleeding colleague.
Of course the article includes a nice high school photo of the now deceased 26 year old for an added touch.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:36 pm to East Coast Band
I'm thinking I may have this one crossed up with something else based on the replies, carry on
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:37 pm to East Coast Band
Floyd overdosed but facts be damned for the young urban democrats.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:38 pm to East Coast Band
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Reed fired first
This bit here should be in the first paragraph.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:38 pm to East Coast Band
Reed fired first
Shouldn't that be the end of the discussion?
Shouldn't that be the end of the discussion?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:39 pm to East Coast Band
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Reed fired first
this is what it boils down to for me..
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:39 pm to East Coast Band
Police were out of line, you have to actually get shot to fire back.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:39 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This bit here should be in the first paragraph.
It should be the title but then no one would read the bs.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:40 pm to East Coast Band
A mother shouldn't have to fear for her son's life every time he shoots at police during a traffic stop :(
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:41 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
“The only reason you can fire is if this guy is creating an imminent threat.”
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Reed fired first
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:42 pm to East Coast Band
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police officers fired nearly 100 shots in under a minute
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Reed fired first
Even though the dead guy fired first rule of thumb says you should only fire 60-80 rounds in under a minute. Clearly they were way over that in this case.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:42 pm to Ingeniero
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A mother shouldn't have to fear for her son's life every time he shoots at police during a traffic stop
It's funny but damn near what we've become..
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:52 pm to East Coast Band
I’m going to hold my comments until we know more. If he did, indeed, fire first, case closed, imo.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:55 pm to East Coast Band
The media is trying like hell to push this as cops murdering a poor black kid. In the last week, the usual suspects have been organizing protests, with pics of Reed in his high school cap and gown on flyers.
Reed is actually 26 yrs old with a rap sheet. You'll hear he was pulled over for just a seatbelt violation, but he was also wearing a ski mask.
I watched all the body cam footage when it was released yesterday morning. He wasn't compliant, and he shot a cop by the passenger side of his car. That's when all hell broke loose.
Of course the AP reports the cops fired 96 times. The police report states there were 96 shots fired in total, 79 of which came from the cops on scene, so maybe around 15 rounds each. Which means 17 came from Reed.
It was a good shoot.
Reed is actually 26 yrs old with a rap sheet. You'll hear he was pulled over for just a seatbelt violation, but he was also wearing a ski mask.
I watched all the body cam footage when it was released yesterday morning. He wasn't compliant, and he shot a cop by the passenger side of his car. That's when all hell broke loose.
Of course the AP reports the cops fired 96 times. The police report states there were 96 shots fired in total, 79 of which came from the cops on scene, so maybe around 15 rounds each. Which means 17 came from Reed.
It was a good shoot.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:56 pm to MemphisGuy
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Reed fired first Shouldn't that be the end of the discussion?
I do wish they didn’t use unmarked police cars looking at the video.They probably needed to properly identify themselves as well.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:57 pm to High C
How with that child grow up with no baby daddy now.... Lil' Dindu
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:59 pm to c on z
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I do wish they didn’t use unmarked police cars looking at the video
THIS
There’s no way to know if you’re just being assaulted - unmarked police cars shouldn’t exist.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:01 pm to East Coast Band
Saw the video.
He shot first after refusing to roll down his windo/open his door, the cops shot back, cops won their 1v1.
Nothing about this deserves protests or rioting.
He shot first after refusing to roll down his windo/open his door, the cops shot back, cops won their 1v1.
Nothing about this deserves protests or rioting.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:02 pm to East Coast Band
Hope so. The DNC convention is in Chicago this year. Would love to watch them burn down the city while nominating someone trying to burn down the country
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:04 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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unmarked police cars shouldn’t exist.
Totally agree.. Plus plain clothes..
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