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re: Dr. Jason Karp shows the difference between Canada's Fruit Loop Cereal and America's

Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:26 am to
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:26 am to
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You can look at a variety of foods and sodas sold in the US and Europe and they are almost completely different. The European version has 1/10th the ingredients

Europe has far more strict regulations on food and things people put into their bodies. Europe leans much more towards regulating poor choices, while America allows you to make poor choices in the name of freedom. Unfortunately so many people make the poor choices that companies cater to them, which becomes a vicious cycle because people get addicted to the sugars and additives in our foods and drinks
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:26 am to

Food companies will make food to be most addictive to consumers by using whatever ingredients. The spend billions making it look a certain way, crunch a certain way, triggers the consumer’s brain a certain way. Even the labeling is manipulating. Remember: any food labeling as healthy is probably not healthy. Add in aggressive marketing, lobbying, corrupt lawmakers, our pleasure chasing culture, and we get what we get. And that’s why Americans are so unhealthy and obsessed.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3244 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:26 am to
The majority of processed and manufactured food products in the US are allowed to cut corners vs other countries, including Mexico (for some reason). I am sure you can link a variety of bad cause and effect relationships from the allowed additives and hi fructose corn syrup type shite that is allowed here but not elsewhere.

Ultimately, yes you could choose to eat better but when it is completely pervasive and quite possibly in 95% of the products sold, how easy is it to cut out of your families diet when you are trying to feed people on a budget?

I am glad there are people at least trying to shed light on it because the average consumer doesn't know and is too stupid to care.
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
550 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:26 am to
While partially true, the EU doesn't have the same requirements for reporting on ingredients that the US does. They very well may have the same ingredients but aren't required to report.

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While it's common practice for labels in the EU to identify food additives by their E Numbers, in the US, additives must be referenced by their common names. “'Sodium caseinate' would be declared as such in the ingredient list of a US food label,” explains Culhane. “On an EU food label, it would be declared as 'E469'.


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Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3211 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:27 am to
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fruit loop consumption remains optional


You're a bafoon. By that logic every item of food or beverage is optional so we should just completely do away with all food safety regulations?

Same with medicine...you don't HAVE to take it...you could just choose to die so it's optional...let's do away with all medical/ pharmaceutical safety regulations too

Moron.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
74894 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:27 am to
It's a tough one. Companies should be able to make products, and people should be able to consume products they like.

That being said, it's obvious as American corps are going global, they are using Americans as a testing ground and method to recoup costs that they are losing by other countries enforcing strict pricing and ingredient laws. That is horse shite, and we either need to massively jack tariffs up, or figure out a solution to this problem that isn't government. Unfortunately the populace is fat and stupid.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:27 am to
Absolutely - our processed foods are horrible. I try my best to stick to unprocessed, whole foods in my household. What is most sad about this to me are lower income families with kids who are stuck in this cycle. We wonder how we have such a childhood obesity problem and incredibly high number of diet related chronic diseases in this country. Well, I don't wonder, I know why.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73439 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:29 am to
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Europe leans much more towards regulating poor choices, while America allows you to make poor choices in the name of freedom. Unfortunately so many people make the poor choices that companies cater to them, which becomes a vicious cycle because people get addicted to the sugars and additives in our foods and drinks


The biggest issue isn't that people are allowed to make the poor choices, it's that they're tacitly endorsed by the organizations that are purported to be making decisions based on the best interests of the people.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25000 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:29 am to
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You can look at a variety of foods and sodas sold in the US and Europe and they are almost completely different. The European version has 1/10th the ingredients


European regulations do not require the listing of all ingredients. Some minor ingredients (usually minor due to quantity) are not listed.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2209 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:30 am to
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If you are eating Fruit Loops for breakfast there isn’t much hope for you. Who doesn’t know that is just a box of sugar with preservatives mixed in?


When my kids were in daycare, that’s what was served for “breakfast.” You might want to check what your kid’s school or daycare is serving, even if you don’t serve it at home.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175411 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:31 am to
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You don’t have to buy it…


Really? I had no idea.

And to be honest it's harder and harder to avoid many of these additives outside of growing your own garden and cattle.

They are widely used due to the cost-cutting by manufacturers.

Alternatives without them are usually sold at a higher price that many families can't afford especially after the past 3 years of inflation.

quote:


Let’s not allow guns like Europe too, they shoot people


What a stupid argument. Did you really see this as a viable counterpoint?
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2365 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:31 am to
I get all of it, they are "poising us", but what about if we just don't buy it....

Teach your kids what's healthy and not healthy. Sure we still get fast food once every couple weeks, and maybe some sugar cereal here and there, but even my 5 year old knows we don't eat McDonalds cause in her words "that's not healthy".
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
7864 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:33 am to
I was told less regulation is good
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:34 am to
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Teach your kids what's healthy and not healthy.


Do you even have a good definition of this? A point here is that even our own government is pushing unhealthy food items at us and saying "eat this". Where is food nutrition being taught? In school? At home? We've done a piss poor job of putting health and education first in this country.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175411 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:35 am to
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. Remember: any food labeling as healthy is probably not healthy.


This guy shows how easy it is to label junk food to appear healthy. Has made hundreds of videos showing what is allowed and how marketing companies push the line to deceive people


Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
52862 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:36 am to
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The bigger question is: At what age do young people start preferring cocaine over sugar?


3 1/2
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74863 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:37 am to
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The biggest issue isn't that people are allowed to make the poor choices, it's that they're tacitly endorsed by the organizations that are purported to be making decisions based on the best interests of the people.
The even bigger issue is that people don’t actually suffer the poor choices they make.

WE, the US populace, pay to prevent or ameliorate the outcome of their poor choices, and I’m sick of it.

Freedom is always the argument, but it isn’t actually freedom. It’s a subsidy.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 8:38 am
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
2053 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:38 am to
Don't know how it is spelled in Canada, but in the US it is Froot Loops, not Fruit Loops.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:39 am to
They're not poisoning us. Were willingly ingesting the poisons
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17608 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:39 am to
Is it a labeling thing or are they intentionally putting less shite in it?
Either way... best not to eat that crap except for rare on the go occasions.
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